Playing a True Guard at SF in Zone Topic

I'm just looking for some feedback and possibly lineup suggestions for my D1 Cincinnati team.  I just finished reading through that 12 page zone thread, and have some questions.  That thread changed a lot about what we know regarding DEF in the zone, but didn't have a whole lot of new about REB.  I am going with a FB/Zone scheme.  I really like what the FB offense brings to the table in terms of offensive efficiency and FT shooting, and feel like running zone negates the stamina hit.  The main problem I'm facing heading into next season is whether or not I can get away with playing a true guard (2 REB) at SF in a 3-2.  This SF, along with my SG, are my two best scorers and I feel I need to have both in my lineup.  I also have a PG who should be a pretty good distributor to these guys.  Its also worth noting that my REB at PF (86 REB, will get to 96) and C (99 REB) will be very strong.  Below is my projected starting lineup:

PG - Adam Degeorge
SG - Samuel Bales
SF - David Eastridge
PF -
Dennis Albright
C -
James Sommers

If Eastridge isn't an acceptable SF, I would probably move Degeorge to backup PG, slide Bales & Eastridge up a position, and start

Chad Forrester at SF.  In addition to improving my REB, swapping Forrester for Degeorge would greatly help my defense in the 3-2, but hurt my offense pretty bad.

Any feedback at all would be greatly appreciated.  I would really like to make the NT this season, and with 3 SR and 4 JR I feel like I should be able to.  Thanks for the help.
9/10/2014 1:32 AM
I don't think the poor SF rebounding is going to hurt you very much, particularly if you play most games in the 3-2 (you definitely want to be flexible on that aspect, however).  That being said, the defensive ramifications of playing Degeorge and Bales together in the same zone backcourt could be pretty significant.  They're both well below par for high D1.  I would also point out that Bales is a very equivalent distributor to Degeorge, and would be perfectly at home starting at the 1.  What you do really lose in the alternative lineup is a lot of passing at the 3.  It's hard to precisely quantify how much that matters; it's reasonably doable to estimate the impact of passing at the 1, but harder as you move down and the margins get smaller.  It does seem likely, however, that the % hit to your offense reducing your passing is probably at least marginally smaller than the % gain in your perimeter defense going from Degeorge to Forrester.  You could consider using your "current" lineup against teams that do most of their scoring inside/have poor PER, and use the alternate lineup the rest of the time.  Which will be the vast majority of the time.  Not a lot of good D1 teams that can't shoot the 3.
9/10/2014 1:49 AM
you are lacking in offense, overall. in the mid level of d1, trying to get some offensive players who can compete with the big boys, that is the single most important factor in success. its late, so i won't go into much detail, but basically that is a result of the diminishing returns inherent in the game. your key offensive players are the most important players on the team (they are the folks who benefit the most from a sharp diminishing returns curve, where the lead offensive players contribute dramatically more than subsequent players of similar quality - and usually there is a significant drop off in talent)... while depth wise, your 4th and 5th defenders are the most important (they are the folks hit least hard by diminishing returns).

anyway, at your level, great depth is impossible, so you have to prioritize. offensive is top of the priority, and particularly, perimeter based scoring from the 1-3. starting bales and eastridge is sort of a must, IMO. the rebounding hit of a guard sf is much less important, when you have quality rebounding at the 4-5, where rebounding is of the utmost importance (it all goes back to diminishing returns).

not sure if i am making any sense, pretty much ready to pass out, just finishing my last drink... ask me a follow up if this doesn't make sense and ill clarify tomorrow when i make more sense :)
9/10/2014 2:51 AM
I wouldn't hesitate to play him at the 3 whatsoever. I think he is your best option.

But I would also be committing to a 3-2 set - all day everyday.

I don't think Bales & Degeorge are currently strong enough ATH/DEF-wise to be left out there alone in the 2-3, they could get lit up very easily vs a superior backcourt. Eastridge helps balance the ATH/DEF averages and his 81 P / A+ IQs / offensive abilties are a nice bonus to field out of the 3.

Albright and Sommers are defensively sound, they'll hold it down just fine as a 2.


9/10/2014 2:27 PM (edited)
Playing a True Guard at SF in Zone Topic

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