ReWrite History II Progressive - Starting in 1919 Topic

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So after discussion started in another thread about having another ReWrite History League starting in the 20s or 30s. I have thought about starting a league in that time frame for awhile because I didn't know much about that time frame and the research for the leagues teaches me alot. Anyways, here is what I had in mind.

I am starting this one in the 1919 season just because it was just as players were coming back from World War I and I just think that this would be a good premise for the start of our league.

There were only 16 teams in that era so I think having a 12 team league (2 six team leagues) will work well. There are about 200 position players and 150 pitchers so that should be plenty for 12 teams.

Players who only played for one team automatically start with that team without having to be drafted (only in the initial draft, exclusive players after the initial draft will be slotted into a round just as they are in the original ReWrite History league. The round that a specific player will be slotted into will be determined by the commisioner, however he may ask for advice from other owners as to what is fair, based on other players in that year's draft. Teams may choose to decline exclusive players. In that case they will be put into the initial draft pool as open players.

The First 15 Rounds of the Initial draft will be for players who played for your team at some point in their career (or open players.) The determination of what teams are eligible to draft a player will be based on the website Baseball-Reference.com. If a player played at least 1PA or 1IP for a team then they can be drafted by that team in the exclusive rounds of the Draft. The Draft Order for this initial order will be inverse of the wins in real life from 1919-1928 (the first 10 years of what will be our league) this gives the worst teams best crack at the best players. After those 15 rounds you can draft any player you wish.

Picks in the initial draft (as well as exclusive players and\or players already drafted) can be traded and you can trade any picks in the 1920 rookie draft as well in the initial draft.

Draft order for future rookie drafts will be held just as they are in our league now with the first four rounds for players playing for your team only and then open to everyone. Draft Order will be a straight worst to first records by season's end record. There are some fairly bad teams during this time and I don't want to have to punish teams who are really bad by missing out on someone that may help them out. If it's obvious that a team is tanking on purpose (playing players out of position, starting exhausted pitchers when rested pitchers are available, etc. then the commissioner reserves the write to impose a draft position penalty on that team. This action will only take place in extreme situations and I will consult with other managers to discuss an appropriate penalty.

Once drafted players can be traded to any team without restrictions.

I am open to discussion for any and all points.

National League
Boston Braves - brian1648
Brooklyn Robins (Dodgers) - DEFUNCT
Chicago Cubs - DEFUNCT
Cincinnati Reds - crazyjoe02
New York Giants - coled
Pittsburgh Pirates - cammer2002
Philadelphia Phillies - whoscraig
St. Louis Cardinals - dn3524

American League
Boston Red Sox - danidon
Chicago White Sox - topkat
Cleveland Indians - leganovci
Detroit Tigers - dh0220
New York Yankees -  edsortails
Philadelphia Athletics - fabulous
St. Louis Browns - DEFUNCT
Washington Senators - DEFUNCT


Draft Order for the Initial Draft (Based on total wins from 1919-1928)

Team Wins
Philadelphia Phillies 542
Boston Red Sox 603
Boston Braves 604
Philadelphia Athletics 702
St. Louis Browns 750
Chicago White Sox 760
Brooklyn Robins 764
Detroit Tigers 770
Washington Senators 777
Chicago Cubs 784
Cleveland Indians 789
St. Louis Cardinals 798
Cincinnati Reds 828
Pittsburgh Pirates 860
New York Giants 893
New York Yankees 925
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Exclusive players to start 1919. Teams may decline this players and they will go into the initial draft to be drafted by any team.

National League
Boston Braves - FINAL (23)
1B George Sisler
P Lefty Tyler
 
Cincinnati Reds - FINAL (21)
1B Jake Daubert
OF Manuel Cueto
P Dave Davenport
P Hod Eller
 
New York Giants - FINAL (21)
2B Larry Doyle
3B Pete Kilduff
3B Heinie Zimmerman
OF Ross Youngs
 
Philadelphia Phillies - FINAL (22)
C Bill Killefer
1B Fred Luderus
OF Cy Williams
 
Pittsburgh Pirates - FINAL (21)
OF Carson Bigbee
OF Max Carey
P Bert Gallia
P Elmer Ponder
 
St. Louis Cardinals - FINAL (22)
C Verne Clemons
OF Austin McHenry
P Oscar Tuero
 
American League
Boston Red Sox - FINAL (23)
1B Joe Judge
OF Jack Tobin
 
Chicago White Sox - FINAL (19)
3B Buck Weaver
SS Swede Risberg
OF Happy Felsch
P Harry Courtney
P Red Faber
P Dickie Kerr
 
Cleveland Indians - FINAL (20)
SS Ray Chapman
SS Frank Ellerbe
OF Sam Rice
P Paul Carter
P Guy Morton
 
Detroit Tigers - FINAL (20)
3B Bob Jones
SS Donie Bush
P Doc Ayers
P Bernie Boland
P Hooks Dauss
 
New York Yankees - FINAL (20)
C Truck Hannah
2B Joe Gedeon
3B Jimmy Austin
P Urban Shocker
P Hippo Vaughn
 
Philadelphia Athletics - FINAL (20)
OF Merlin Kopp
P Jing Johnson
P Rollie Naylor
P Harry Thompson
P Zack Wheat
9/26/2014 11:16 PM (edited)
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1919 Initial Draft Availables

Catchers

Bert Adams (CLE, PHI)
Sam Agnew **OPEN**
Eddie Ainsmith (DET, NYG, STL)
Josh Billings **OPEN**
Fred Blackwell **OPEN**
Hick Cady (BOS, PHI)
Nig Clarke (CLE, DET, PHI, PIT)
Tom Daly (CLE, CHW)
Pickles Dillhoefer (PHI, STL)
Patsy Gharrity **OPEN**
Mike Gonzalez (BSN, CIN, NYG, STL)
Hank Gowdy (BSN, NYG)
Ernie Krueger (NYG, CIN, CLE, NYY)
Cliff Lee (PHI, PIT, CLE, CIN)
Byrd Lynn **OPEN**
Wally Mayer (CHW, BOS)
Wickey McAvoy **OPEN**
Lew McCarty (NYG, STL)
Otto Miller **OPEN**
Les Nunamaker (BOS, NYY, CLE)
Bob O'Farrell (STL, NYG, CIN)
Steve O'Neill (CLE, BOS, NYY)
Val Picinich (BOS, CIN, PHA, PIT)
Cy Perkins (PHA, NYY, DET)
Bill Rariden (BSN, NYG, CIN)
Muddy Ruel (NYY, BOS, DET, CHW)
Ray Schalk (CHW, NYG)
Wally Schang (PHA, NYY, BOS, DET)
Walter Schmidt (PIT, STL)
Hank Severeid (CIN, NYY) 
Frank Snyder (STL, NYG)
Oscar Stanage (DET, CIN)
Walt Tragesser (BSN, PHI)
Roxy Walters (BOS, NYY, CLE)
Mack Wheat **OPEN**
Art Wilson (NYG, BSN, CHI, PIT, CLE)
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First Basemen

George H. Burns (CLE, PHA, DET, BOS, NYY)
Dick Burrus (PHA, BSN)
Hal Chase (NYY, CIN, CHW, NYG)
Del Gainer (DET, BOS, STL)
Chick Gandil (CHW, CLE)
Ivy Griffin **OPEN**
Joe Harris (BOS, PIT, CLE, NYY)
Harry Heilmann (DET, CIN)
Walter Holke (NYG, BSN, PHI, CIN)
Doc Johnston (CLE, PIT, PHA, CIN)
George Kelly (NYG, CIN, PIT)
Ed Konetchy (STL, BSN, PIT, PHI)
Fred Lear (NYG, PHA)
Stuffy McInnis (PHA, BOS, PIT, BSN, PHI, CLE)
Fred Merkle (NYG, NYY)
Dots Miller (PIT, STL, PHI)
Fritz Mollwitz (PIT, CIN, STL)
Wally Pipp (NYY, CIN, DET)
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Second Basemen

Al Baird **OPEN**
Jack Barry (PHA, BOS)
Eddie Collins (PHA, CHW)
George Cutshaw (PIT, DET)
Babe Ellison **OPEN**
Frankie Frisch (STL, NYG)
Roy Grover **OPEN**
Buck Herzog (NYG, BSN, CIN)
Hal Janvrin (BOS, STL)
Jimmy Johnston (NYG, BSN, 
Joe Leonard (PIT, CLE)
Gene Paulette (STL, PHI, NYG)
Harry Pearce **OPEN**
Charlie Pick (BSN, PHA)
Del Pratt (NYY, BOS, DET)
Morrie Rath (PHA, CIN, CHW, CLE)
Johnny Rawlings (PIT, BSN, NYG, PHI, CIN)
Ray Schmandt **OPEN**
Red Shannon (PHA, BSN, BOS)
Dave Shean (BSN, PHI, BOS, PHA, CIN)
Milt Stock (STL, PHI, NYG)
Bill Wambsganss (CLE, BOS, PHA)

 

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Third Basemen

Doug Baird (PIT, STL, NYG, PHI)
Frank Baker (PHA, NYY)
Walter Barbare (BSN, PIT, CLE, BOS)
Lena Blackburne (CHW, PHI, BSN, CIN)
Tony Boeckel (BSN, PIT)
Herman nkie (CLE, STL)
Charlie Deal (BSN, DET)
Ben Dyer (DET, NYG)
Eddie Foster (BOS, NYY)
Larry Gardner (BOS, CLE, PHA)
Heinie Groh (CIN, NYG, PIT)
Rogers Hornsby (STL, NYG, BSN)
Lew Malone **OPEN**
Fred McMullin (CHW, DET)
Hank Schreiber (NYG, BSN, CIN, CHW)
Fred Thomas (PHA, BOS)
Ossie Vitt (DET, BOS)

 

9/26/2014 11:19 PM (edited)
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Shortstop
Dave Bancroft (PHI, NYG, BSN)
Howdy Canton **OPEN**
Joe Dugan (NYY, PHA, BSN, BOS, DET)
Art Fletcher (NYG, PHI)
Chick Galloway (PHA, DET)
Wally Gerber (PIT, BOS)
Charlie Hollocher **OPEN**
Larry Kopf (CIN, BSN, PHA, CLE)
Doc Lavan (STL, PHA)
Harry Lunte **OPEN**
Rabbit Maranville (BSN, PIT, STL)
Ivy Olson (CLE, CIN)
Roger Peckinpaugh (NYY, CLE, CHW)
Everett Scott (BOS, NYY, CIN, CHW)
Howie Shanks (BOS, NYY)
Ed Sicking (NYG, PIT, PHI, CIN)
Zeb Terry (CHW, PIT, BSN)
Terry Turner (CLE, PIT, PHA)
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Outfielders
Turner Barber **OPEN**
Ping Bodie (NYY, CHW, PHA)
Rube Bressler (CIN, PHA, PHI, STL)
George J. Burns (NYG, CIN, PHI)
Leo Callahan **OPEN**
Ty Cobb (DET, PHA)
Shano Collins (CHW, BOS)
Gavvy Cravath (PHI, BOS, CHW)
Walton Cruise (BSN, STL)
Manuel Cueto **OPEN**
Ray Demmitt (CHW, NYY)
Pat Duncan (CIN, PIT)
Chick Fewster (NYY, BOS, CLE)
Max Flack (STL, CHI)
Ira Flagstead (BOS, DET, PIT)
Frank Gilhooley (NYY, STL, BOS)
Jack Graney **OPEN**
Tommy Griffith (CIN, BSN)
Cliff Heathcote (STL, CIN, PHI)
Jim Hickman **OPEN**
Harry Hooper (BOS, CHW)
Joe Jackson (CLE, CHW, PHA)
Baby Doll Jacobson (BOS, PHA, CLE, DET)
Benny Kauff (NYG, NYY)
Joe Kelly (BSN, PIT)
Bill Lamar (PHA, NYY, BOS)
Bevo LeBourveau (PHI, PHA)
Nemo Leibold (CHW, BOS, CLE)
Duffy Lewis (BOS, NYY)
Lee Magee (STL, NYY, CIN)
Sherry Magee (PHI, BSN, CIN)
Les Mann (BSN, STL, NYG, CHI, CIN)
Bill McCabe **OPEN**
Mike Menosky **OPEN**
Irish Meusel (NYG, PHI)
Clyde Milan **OPEN**
Buzz Murphy **OPEN**
Hy Myers (STL, CIN)
Greasy Neale (CIN, PHI)
Fred Nicholson (PIT, BSN, DET)
Dizzy Nutter **OPEN**
Dode Paskert (PHI, CIN)
Ray Powell (BSN, DET)
Joe Riggert (BSN, STL, BOS)
Dave Robertson (NYG, PIT)
Braggo Roth (CLE, CHW, BOS, PHA, NYY)
Edd Roush (CIN, NYG, CHW)
Babe Ruth (NYY, BOS, BSN)
Joe Schultz (STL, PHI, BSN, PIT, CIN)
Chick Shorten (BOS, DET, CIN)
Burt Shotton **OPEN**
Tod Sloan **OPEN**
Earl Smith **OPEN**
Elmer Smith (CLE, NYY, BOS, CIN)
Jack Smith (STL, BSN)
Red Smith **OPEN**
Billy Southworth (NYG, PIT, BSN, STL, CLE)
Tris Speaker (CLE, BOS, PHA)
Jigger Statz (NYG, BOS)
Casey Stengel (NYG, PIT, BSN, PHI)
Amos Strunk (PHA, CHW, BOS)
Jim Thorpe (NYG, BSN, CIN)
Bobby Veach (DET, BOS, NYY)
Sammy Vick (NYY, BOS)
Tilly Walker (PHA, BOS)
Frank Welch (PHA, BOS)
Possum Whitted (PHI, PIT, STL, BSN)
Ken Williams (BOS, CIN)
Al Wingo (DET, PHA)
Whitey Witt (PHA, NYY)
Joe Wood (BOS, CLE)
9/26/2014 11:21 PM (edited)
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Pitchers
Babe Adams (PIT, STL)
Pete Alexander (PHI, STL)
Red Ames (NYG, STL, CIN, PHI)
Jim Bagby Sr. (CLE, CIN, PIT)
Sweetbreads Bailey **OPEN**
Jesse Barnes (NYG, BSN)
Rube Benton (CIN, NYG)
Leon Cadore (NYG, CHW)
Ray Caldwell (NYY, CLE, BOS)
Mike Cantwell (PHI, NYY)
Hal Carlson (PIT, PHI)
Red Causey (NYG, PHI, BSN)
Larry Cheney (PHI, BSN)
Eddie Cicotte (CHW, BOS, DET)
Wilbur Cooper (PIT, DET)
Stan Coveleski (CLE, PHA, NYY)
Molly Craft **OPEN**
George Cunningham **OPEN**
Dave Danforth (CHW, PHA)
Al Demaree (NYG, PHI, BSN)
Bill Doak (STL, CIN)
Phil Douglas (NYG, CIN, CHW)
Jean Dubuc (DET, CIN, NYG, BOS)
George Dumont **OPEN**
Howard Ehmke (DET, PHA, BOS)
Johnny Enzmann (CLE, PHI)
Eric Erickson (DET, NYG)
Bill Evans **OPEN**
Dana Fillingim (BSN, PHI, PHA)
Ray Fisher (NYY, CIN)
Bob Geary (PHA, CIN)
Marv Goodwin (STL, CIN)
Burleigh Grimes (PIT, STL, NYG, BSN, NYY)
Earl Hamilton (PIT, PHI, DET)
Harry Harper (NYY, BOS)
Claude Hendrix (PIT, CHI)
Brad Hogg (PHI, BSN)
Waite Hoyt (NYY, PIT, NYG, BOS, DET, PHA)
Elmer Jacobs (PIT, PHI, STL, CHW)
Bill James **OPEN**
Hi Jasper (CHW, STL, CLE)
Walter Johnson **OPEN**
Sam Jones (BOS, NYY, CHW, CLE)
Ray Keating (NYY, BSN)
Walt Kinney (PHA, BOS)
Ernie Koob **OPEN**
Lefty Leifield **OPEN**
Dutch Leonard (BOS, DET)
Slim Love (NYY, DET)
Grover Lowdermilk (STL, DET, CHW, CLE)
Dolf Luque (CIN, NYG, BSN)
Al Mamaux (PIT, NYY)
Rube Marquard (NYG, BSN, CIN)
Speed Martin **OPEN**
Jakie May (CIN, STL)
Erskine Mayer (PHI, PIT, CHW)
Carl Mays (BOS, CIN, NYY, NYG)
Bob McGraw (NYY, PHI, STL, BOS)
Hugh McQuillan (NYG, BSN)
Lee Meadows (PIT, PHI, STL)
Frank Miller (PIT, BSN, CHW)
Clarence Mitchell (PHI, NYG, STL, CIN, DET)
Roy Mitchell (CIN, CHW)
George Mogridge (NYY, BSN, CHW)
Pat Murray **OPEN**
Elmer Myers (PHA, BOS, CLE)
Art Nehf (NYG, BSN, CIN)
Jake Northrop **OPEN**
Win Noyes (PHA, BSN, CHW)
Joe Oeschger (PHI, BSN, NYG)
Gene Packard (CIN, STL, PHI)
Herb Pennock (NYY, BOS, PHA)
Scott Perry (PHA, CIN)
Tom Phillips **OPEN**
Jeff Pfeffer (STL, PIT)
Jack Quinn (NYY, PHA, BOS, BSN, CIN, CHW)
Pat Ragan (BSN, CIN, NYG, PHI, CHW)
Jimmy Ring (PHI, CIN, NYG, STL)
Eppa Rixey (CIN, PHI)
Dick Robertson **OPEN**
Tom Rogers (PHA, NYY)
Dick Rudolph (BSN, NYG)
Dutch Ruether (CIN, NYY)
Allan Russell (NYY, BOS)
Slim Sallee (STL, NYG, CIN)
Pete Schneider (CIN, NYY)
Ferdie Schupp (NYG, STL, CHW)
Jack Scott (NYG, BSN, PIT, PHI, CIN)
Socks Seibold (BSN, PHA)
Jim Shaw **OPEN**
Bob Shawkey (NYY, PHA)
Frank Shellenback **OPEN**
Bill Sherdel (STL, BSN)
Ernie Shore (BOS, NYY, NYG)
Sherry Smith (CLE, PIT)
George Smith (NYG, PHI, CIN)
Allen Sothoron (STL, CLE, BOS)
Fred Toney (NYG, CIN, STL)
George Uhle (CLE, DET, NYY, NYG)
Milt Watson (PHI, STL)
Carl Weilman **OPEN**
Lefty Williams (CHW, DET)
Jesse Winters (PHI, NYG)
Frank Woodward (PHI, STL, CHW)
Rasty Wright **OPEN**
Tom Zachary (BSN, NYY, PHI, PHA)
Jimmy Zinn (PIT, CLE, PHA)
9/26/2014 11:21 PM (edited)
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So Hornsby can only by drafted by the cardinals the browns the Cubs the Giants and the braves?
9/23/2014 9:28 AM
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Yes. In the first 15 Rounds of the initial draft (and the first four rounds of future rookie drafts) you can only draft players who played for your team at some point.
9/23/2014 10:20 AM
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I'll enter with Detroit
9/23/2014 12:10 PM
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Posted by coled on 9/23/2014 11:46:00 AM (view original):
Fred Toney is listed as exclusive to Cards and draftable to 3 other teams in Free agents
Fixed. I removed him from the exclusives.
9/23/2014 12:32 PM
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Alright, CJ, pencil me in for my Phils.
9/24/2014 5:57 PM
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Awesome!  That leaves one NL opening
9/24/2014 8:27 PM
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