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Posted by moy23 on 11/5/2014 5:05:00 PM (view original):
Posted by burnsy483 on 11/5/2014 3:22:00 PM (view original):
She is very easy to make fun of.  That said, the attacks and jokes about her family are uncalled for (Letterman comes to mind).

That said, she did say some dumb ****, and it had nothing to do with her family. It was scary to think that if McCain won, we were a stroke away from Palin running the show. And 75 year olds are at a much higher risk of stroke than 50 year olds. 
Honestly I didn't like Palin at all but to be fair she was unprepared and not ready to be thrust in that role. A novice trying to ***fake while they make it***. Much like an inexperienced Obama with his resume (no governing, no management, barely a senator). The difference is Obama can fake it better on the campaign trail.

But given the choice between these two scenarios:

A 70 yr old experience President with a chance an inexperienced VP may have to step in
Or
An inexperienced 50 yr old President with less chance the experienced VP would have to step in

I'm taking the chance the experienced 70 yr old President lives 4-8 years rather than 100% guaranteeing inexperience @ the most important job in America.
You'd be happier with Palin as president, I gather?
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Posted by burnsy483 on 11/5/2014 5:09:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 11/5/2014 4:21:00 PM (view original):
Posted by burnsy483 on 11/5/2014 4:20:00 PM (view original):
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Posted by MikeT23 on 11/5/2014 3:52:00 PM (view original):
And you wouldn't have worried about Biden on his own?   C'mon. 

Palin would have been the most "managed" Prez in history. 
Biden says some dumb ****, but I feel like he said much less of it at the time.  He also was in Washington forever, it's not like he didn't have a grasp on how things worked there. Palin was both inexperienced and incompetent. 

Maybe if Obama was 70-something, we would have heard some **** about how you can't elect someone when Biden is the VP.
You're basing this opinion on the media reports, who tend to turn a blind eye to the liberal's missteps ("Hey, Joe, how's your SON doing?") and emphasize the conservative's problems ("Hey, Sarah, how is Bristol doing?").  Biden is a certifiable, proven bozo that the media whitewashed (no pun intended), Palin was a likely bozo that the media demonized.
I don't think Palin's family issues have anything to do with her incompetence as a potential president.
Do you think it was her inexperience that doomed her?
Yes, and her perceived incompetence. Maybe she would have been great at the job, but the words that came out of her mouth said otherwise.
Do you think Obama had enough experience or was his ability in public speaking enough to overcome that lack of experience?
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Posted by burnsy483 on 11/5/2014 5:14:00 PM (view original):
Of course you would, I don't know what I'm asking.

IMO, Obama has done a better job than what Palin would have done.
Yet it wasn't Obama vs. Palin.

You're a low knowledge voter, aren't you?
11/5/2014 5:25 PM
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Sorry, low information voter.

11/5/2014 5:27 PM
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Posted by burnsy483 on 11/5/2014 5:14:00 PM (view original):
Of course you would, I don't know what I'm asking.

IMO, Obama has done a better job than what Palin would have done.
For me thats irrelevant. The VP is not the president.

I'm not voting for the VP to run the country. IF the 70 yr old died the inexperienced VP would step up for 1-3 years. That's still better then guaranteeing 4 full years of a novice learning on the job.
11/5/2014 5:32 PM
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FWIW everyone has to "learn on the job" as President. There's no equivalent to being leader of the free world, and as it seems, having near limitless control to the world's most powerful military.

A person that has been Vice President would be closest to having knowledge of what to do, but it's quite a bit different than being the man-in-charge. No Senator or Governor is going to come in knowing WTF to do. It's a different world.
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Do you think you'd be a better President than a guy who's been a Governor for 15 years?
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Posted by stinenavy on 11/5/2014 10:23:00 PM (view original):
FWIW everyone has to "learn on the job" as President. There's no equivalent to being leader of the free world, and as it seems, having near limitless control to the world's most powerful military.

A person that has been Vice President would be closest to having knowledge of what to do, but it's quite a bit different than being the man-in-charge. No Senator or Governor is going to come in knowing WTF to do. It's a different world.
You're taking 'learn on the job' too literally. Technically everyone learns something on the job, even the most experienced ceos. My point is some people have much more to learn than others.

There's a BIG difference in experience or readiness when you compare a person that has governed, and/or managed, politicked in Washington, chaired committees, etc vs a community organizer with 4 years of us senate experience.

Think of it like this... Consider you have the keys to a brand new 18 wheeler and you have two options of who you can pick to drive it safely from Maryland to California. Choice 1 has driven a sedan for 10 years, Choice 2 just got their drivers license last week. Who are you picking to get that truck there safely?

Option 2 is the equivalent of Barrack Obama, Ted Cruz, Rand Paul while option 1 is more like John McCain, Hillary Clinton, George Bush. Like it or not option 1 is much more experienced for the job and more likely to succeed.

Its interesting barrack can't get one single republican vote and Cruz can't make friends on his own side of the aisle (neither guy has/had much experience working in Washington).... Yet the much despised bush had strong democratic support on bills like the patriot act, no child left behind, and the bailout bill. It's also not coincidental that McCain can cross aisles to get things done (whether we like it or not) and has for many years.

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