When I started I read AEJones thread in which he mentioned that he pulls down by sending ten scouting trips to a potential pull down after he has verified that he has a shot ('back up option).    I have used this repeatedly and effectively with my Div 3 teams pulling down Div 2 players.

But now I am at Div 2 trying to pull down a low Div 1.      I got the favorable messages from coach and player (you might be a back up option, keep in touch, etc)     But I have now sent 20 scouting trips and 10 letters and I am not being considered.  (no one is.)   Any idea what is up?  does it work different pulling from d1?

10 doesn't always work....either just keep sending ST's or you can try Hv's and see if he accepts them

It could be 30 ST sometimes. It happened twice.

Also deroches if someone else is sending ST this will effect how many you need to send I believe. I may take more from either of you to get considered

Yes this can be also effected by competition, i have had a case where i got a favourable message but the guy wouldnt pulldown and had to wait for a drop down no matter how many ST i sent

Try sending a HV when your ST total gets over 15 or so.

Posted by Trentonjoe on 8/10/2015 8:01:00 AM (view original):
Try sending a HV when your ST total gets over 15 or so.

In September 2014, a french guy had to do a bid because he texted his exgirlfried 21,807 times over a ten month period.

So, I'd think twice before following TJ's advice...I mean, look were it got him?

French prisons are nice.

well thanks for the advice everyone.   it turns out 30 ST did the trick, and no one went to jail.