It took 38 starts and 841 minutes to go from  a 1 WE to 2. 

how much growth/degrowth

wowza

Under 20 and you should just count on them remaining virtually the same player as a freshman and a senior. If they have a WE under 20, I will recruit them if they will play well immediately for me. And that's it. 

I think I gotta disagree a little stewie.

maybe agree if you say under 10 or so.

but we in high teens can usually make significant progress in one or two areas in certain scenarios.

But I agree you have to be careful and understand what you are getting into. and if there is an attribute or two that you are hoping for significant growth, you have to be patient, he may not develop that skill until late jr or even sr year.

I agree oldave. Here's one example of a guy I got right now. Started as 13 WE and I gave him a RS and he's in his 2nd season of starting (10 games into soph year). His WE is up to 19 and he's gained 65 total points. 14 in speed and 10 in def. So not sure where he'll end up but I think he'll be MUCH better his senior season than his Freshman season.

Here's a link with his potentials showing.

http://imgur.com/EhsbArg

Posted by stewdog on 1/27/2016 12:26:00 PM (view original):
Under 20 and you should just count on them remaining virtually the same player as a freshman and a senior. If they have a WE under 20, I will recruit them if they will play well immediately for me. And that's it. 

I think that's pretty sound advice.

Posted by the0nlyis on 1/26/2016 3:43:00 PM (view original):
how much growth/degrowth

overall a decrease of  around 20 or so....in target areas he's + a couple

Agree somewhat with you guys who disagreed with me :) 

I think it depends on the potential. 
If he's maxed out, he won't lose a few key areas he would otherwise lose. That's a good thing in this case so you can focus on 1-2 areas, which is do-able over 10 WE
If he's blue, he will likely increase a bit in a few key areas. 
If hes black, he won't increase much in that category... just slightly. 

Posted by stewdog on 1/27/2016 5:39:00 PM (view original):
Agree somewhat with you guys who disagreed with me :) 

I think it depends on the potential. 
If he's maxed out, he won't lose a few key areas he would otherwise lose. That's a good thing in this case so you can focus on 1-2 areas, which is do-able over 10 WE
If he's blue, he will likely increase a bit in a few key areas. 
If hes black, he won't increase much in that category... just slightly. 

Potential is super important....if the guy is high high in you can get 8-12 points of growth in a career out of guys with WE's as low as 6 or 7......if you have multiple reds, you can put 1's in their development and not worry about their decrease......this allows for more minutes  in key areas, many times my low WE guys practice plan look like 30,30,7,7,1,1,1,1 or something like that

If have signed high potential guys at 18 and 19 that started for me, progressed to WE's in the 40's, and maxed out (at individual practice time of 23 minutes).