I'm not sure exactly how this works. What factors the most. I just realized my capital team in knight stayed an A after I went to the sw16, when the year before I didn't make the NT and only went to round 2 in the PI. It might be because I should have and kinda of expected a bigger drop the year before. I went from NC to 2nd rd of PI and dropped from A+ to only a A (I thought I would drop lower).
I'm just not sure what factors what.

I'm surprised you didn't get back to A+. Prestige looks a your last 4 seasons. According to a ticket alblack sent, prestige is 50% your win total and 50% your post-season success.

Assuming it does take your last 4 seasons, your S16 was replaced with another S16. A PI(2nd Round) which probably has a value of a B- and the fact you could've went from a low A to a high A could explain the A prestige.

Darnoc that might explain it although I still think going from PI to sweet 16 should have been more of a bump. But I couldn't argue I probably should have dropped to an A- after only making it to the PI. Thewizard might be onto something maybe I was barely above an A- and might be the higher end of the A scale. I just didn't know how they figured it.
Thanks for the info.

Posted by cmac4567 on 3/2/2016 3:58:00 PM (view original):
I'm not sure exactly how this works. What factors the most. I just realized my capital team in knight stayed an A after I went to the sw16, when the year before I didn't make the NT and only went to round 2 in the PI. It might be because I should have and kinda of expected a bigger drop the year before. I went from NC to 2nd rd of PI and dropped from A+ to only a A (I thought I would drop lower).
I'm just not sure what factors what.

it actually makes sense. prestige in d2/d3 is half your current season, and half your previous prestige (its not 4 years whoever said that - that is the resume calculation only).

so, you had a strong a+ after you NC. your PI2 was probably accompanied by a solid record or something? im guessing... because it sounds like that was a B+ season. if it was a poor b+, with a strong a+, you'd be RIGHT on the border of an a- and an a. so, you must have been the lowest a possible, basically. its also possible you were slightly above an A+, with an a++, with that NC, and the PI2 was a B. but i digress.

so, then your s16 season, which presumably was a crappy a+ season, would average with a crappy a, to make a strong a. that part, totally makes sense. if anything, its the first step, that doesn't exactly make sense, but i can see it... especially because you were an a+ before your NC, which increases the odds that you were basically a very crappy a++ (it would not show as A++, that is impossible), which would make ending on a low A possible when averaged with a PI2 20 win season, which probably is a B prestige season. or maybe it is enough for a crappy b+. i suppose you see teams hit a+ on a 2nd round 25+ win season sometimes, in the lower divisions - so PI2 with 20 wins being the lowest b+, if NT2 with 25 wins is the lowest a+, is not unreasonable sounding at all.

hope that helps!

Posted by gillispie1 on 3/2/2016 11:33:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cmac4567 on 3/2/2016 3:58:00 PM (view original):
I'm not sure exactly how this works. What factors the most. I just realized my capital team in knight stayed an A after I went to the sw16, when the year before I didn't make the NT and only went to round 2 in the PI. It might be because I should have and kinda of expected a bigger drop the year before. I went from NC to 2nd rd of PI and dropped from A+ to only a A (I thought I would drop lower).
I'm just not sure what factors what.

it actually makes sense. prestige in d2/d3 is half your current season, and half your previous prestige (its not 4 years whoever said that - that is the resume calculation only).

so, you had a strong a+ after you NC. your PI2 was probably accompanied by a solid record or something? im guessing... because it sounds like that was a B+ season. if it was a poor b+, with a strong a+, you'd be RIGHT on the border of an a- and an a. so, you must have been the lowest a possible, basically. its also possible you were slightly above an A+, with an a++, with that NC, and the PI2 was a B. but i digress.

so, then your s16 season, which presumably was a crappy a+ season, would average with a crappy a, to make a strong a. that part, totally makes sense. if anything, its the first step, that doesn't exactly make sense, but i can see it... especially because you were an a+ before your NC, which increases the odds that you were basically a very crappy a++ (it would not show as A++, that is impossible), which would make ending on a low A possible when averaged with a PI2 20 win season, which probably is a B prestige season. or maybe it is enough for a crappy b+. i suppose you see teams hit a+ on a 2nd round 25+ win season sometimes, in the lower divisions - so PI2 with 20 wins being the lowest b+, if NT2 with 25 wins is the lowest a+, is not unreasonable sounding at all.

hope that helps!

I'm pretty sure AlBlack was the one who posted his ticket response from CS stating prestige is calculated over a 4 season period, with your most current season counting for half.

Also, I have a ticket response from CS that says resumè is 10 seasons, not 4.

can you post that ticket response? d1 is 10, not 4, but d2/d3 are still 4, as far as i know (actually i believe seble clarified that publicly somewhere just recently).

you are throwing me off with this alblack thing - any chance you have a link? the think is, he said for, i don't know, 5+ years, that prestige in d2/d3 was 50% the recent season, and 50% past prestige, meaning it was a geometric progression where every season's value cut in half after every new seasons. and i argued that he might be taking that statement too far, that it didn't mean it meant the last season was 25% and the one before 12.5% and then 6.25% etc (the recent being 1/2, last 1/4, one before 1/8th, etc) - argued that "previous prestige" being 50% could mean the last season was 30%, next was 20%, next was 10%, or anything else. but he finally convinced me, like a couple years back. so if he then found something to the contrary, i think i would remember that!

Just a couple of quick questions about D1 jobs logic: 1) If you're at a D1 school, does the current prestige of your team influence which jobs you'll be qualified for (BCS jobs or not)? 2) Regarding resumes, how far back does the jobs logic look? 4 seasons? 10 seasons? All seasons? Thanks, Dan
1/26/2015 10:42 AM	Customer Support
Dan, No, whether you're qualified for a job is only dependent on your resume, which is based on the quality of your recent seasons. For the job process, we look at your past 10 seasons as a coach, or all seasons if you have less than 10 total.

There's mine. I assumed the 10 seasons thing was for all levels since they didn't specify D1, although I was referring to D1 in my initial question, so I suppose you could be correct about D2 and D3.

As for the AlBlack ticket, I have no idea. He posted the response in the middle of threads discussing prestige but I haven't a clue which threads they were.

If it only takes into consideration your last 2 season's then that makes me confused more. In season 86 I was 22-8 A-NT1round loss. Then in season 87 I went 28-4 sweet 16 and end at A+. so I had a 6 game bump and went from a A- to A+.
Well these last two seasons I went from an A to an A no bump but won 6 more games and went from PI2 to SW16.
So if its only the last two season's clearly something isn't right or I'm reading what your saying wrong.
Oh and Gill why you gotta call me crappy so many times dude I know I is. LOL

Well, if it takes into account last season's prestige score then that is not taking into account JUST last season. That prestige score was only 50% last season :)