...as if we didn't already know....
The end of this is the best...

9/6/2016 4:12 PM	mullycj
How does Jones turn the ball over 6 times while the OTHER PG with 47 SPD ; 39 BH ; 34 Passing only turn it over 2 times?? What does this engine actually look at?
9/7/2016 3:35 PM	Customer Support
There are so many factors that it would be difficult to pinpoint an exact cause. Things to consider, as you probably already know; offensive style, defensive style/positioning/double teams, player IQ and attributes on both sides. Thank you.
9/7/2016 3:49 PM	mullycj
So your saying I can play a PF at PG and expect not to have any offensive issues? Because those are the types of stats for that player. https://www.whatifsports.com/hdclassic/PlayerProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=0&pid=3307985 This is a DI player at PG.. ^^^^
9/7/2016 3:55 PM	Customer Support
No, Chris, that is not what we are saying. We are saying that there are a lot of factors that go into the outcome of a game that pinpointing why one player performed better than his counterpart would be extremely difficult to do. Thanks.
9/7/2016 3:58 PM	mullycj
So wouldn't you need examples like these to show flaws in your game programming? Or will you just go on assuming everything is working as intended? How else would you/anyone make improvements?
9/7/2016 4:01 PM	Customer Support
If you would like, you could provide some additional information, such as the game id or the team that you were playing so that we can dig further into it and try to come up with some sort of explanation. Thanks!
9/7/2016 4:03 PM	mullycj
Game ID : https://www.whatifsports.com/hdclassic/GameResults/BoxScore.aspx?gid=13553387 My PG https://www.whatifsports.com/hdclassic/PlayerProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=0&pid=3307334 Tenn PG https://www.whatifsports.com/hdclassic/PlayerProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=0&pid=3307985
9/12/2016 1:46 PM	Customer Support
Hi Chris, After looking through the play-by-play, we see that you may want to try increasing the footwork practice for Jones. We will keep the information you provided us in mind when updating the game by passing your notes on to the developer. Thanks.
9/12/2016 1:57 PM	mullycj
Is that a SERIOUS answer or are you just screwing with me now? How is that at all related to the original question/issue????
9/12/2016 2:18 PM	Customer Support
We gave you the suggestion after reviewing due to the travelling violations that Jones has. Thanks.
9/12/2016 3:04 PM	mullycj
Is this your 1st day at WIS? Since when does "footwork" affect turnovers? Can you please escalate to someone who has a clue?

I know not whether to laugh or to weep.

Fortunately, I don't have to make that choice since I am actually laughing hard enough to have tears forming in my eyes.

So glad you shared this one! My Monday has been made...

omfg. you should send CS a copy of the FAQ.

on the plus side, you hit .789 from the ft line.

This is gold.

WOWWWWW

Since when is Coachward answering tickets?

I think it was jack_duck that posted a few exhibition results where he'd put his starting PG at the 5 and starting C at point. He had several examples where the actual pg racked up several assists and the C rarely turned the ball over. So while not completely relevant to the issue at hand (though it does address one of your questions in the ridiculous exchange with CS), there was some evidence that the engine will find the guy with the best PG skill set and run the offense through that player, regardless of which position the player was actually playing.

Posted by Benis on 9/12/2016 6:25:00 PM (view original):
Since when is Coachward answering tickets?

Always have some1 saying my name. I'm not answering the questions.

Maybe I'm being generous, but I have to think this CS guy is trolling you. It's pretty hilarious either way.

why isn't this a pinned topic yet? oh yeah, people aren't giving it the ol' thumbs up rating... please do coaches! this back and forth deserves to be pinned!

I don't know why they just don't say - "It is always somewhat random. Even with a slight advantage to Jones, sometimes you still can get 6 tails in a row and he loses the ball."

Posted by katzphang88 on 9/13/2016 12:26:00 PM (view original):
I don't know why they just don't say - "It is always somewhat random. Even with a slight advantage to Jones, sometimes you still can get 6 tails in a row and he loses the ball."

Well, if you buy that this is an epic troll - which I'm kind of inclined to do - then that's pretty much exactly what they're telling him.

Unreal...

Posted by shoe3 on 9/13/2016 7:58:00 PM (view original):

Posted by katzphang88 on 9/13/2016 12:26:00 PM (view original):
I don't know why they just don't say - "It is always somewhat random. Even with a slight advantage to Jones, sometimes you still can get 6 tails in a row and he loses the ball."

Well, if you buy that this is an epic troll - which I'm kind of inclined to do - then that's pretty much exactly what they're telling him.

so our choices are complete incompetence or trolling a paying customer seeking feedback? Sounds about right. Keep up the good work WIS.