Hey everyone, I am not sure if this has been discussed in the beta forum or not. I just left Iowa State for Michigan State in Knight. They had 5 openings and the previous coach was unable to sign anyone in the first recruiting period. When I took over I was far behind the 8 ball and it looks like I won't sign anyone either. My concern is this: I will potentially have 8 openings next recruiting period but only enough AP and money for 6 spots.

Has there been any conversation about adding additional AP or money even if it is on a reduced scale for teams with over 6 openings?

It seems like in the new system it will be very hard to sign 6 decent players. I haven't gone through this yet so that is why I am asking in advance if this has been discussed. Thanks in advance for any insight or comments.

Posted by gvsujulius on 10/3/2016 11:11:00 PM (view original):
Hey everyone, I am not sure if this has been discussed in the beta forum or not. I just left Iowa State for Michigan State in Knight. They had 5 openings and the previous coach was unable to sign anyone in the first recruiting period. When I took over I was far behind the 8 ball and it looks like I won't sign anyone either. My concern is this: I will potentially have 8 openings next recruiting period but only enough AP and money for 6 spots.

Has there been any conversation about adding additional AP or money even if it is on a reduced scale for teams with over 6 openings?

It seems like in the new system it will be very hard to sign 6 decent players. I haven't gone through this yet so that is why I am asking in advance if this has been discussed. Thanks in advance for any insight or comments.

This will be the time to go through a rebuild and change class structure.

Posted by gvsujulius on 10/3/2016 11:11:00 PM (view original):
Hey everyone, I am not sure if this has been discussed in the beta forum or not. I just left Iowa State for Michigan State in Knight. They had 5 openings and the previous coach was unable to sign anyone in the first recruiting period. When I took over I was far behind the 8 ball and it looks like I won't sign anyone either. My concern is this: I will potentially have 8 openings next recruiting period but only enough AP and money for 6 spots.

Has there been any conversation about adding additional AP or money even if it is on a reduced scale for teams with over 6 openings?

It seems like in the new system it will be very hard to sign 6 decent players. I haven't gone through this yet so that is why I am asking in advance if this has been discussed. Thanks in advance for any insight or comments.

If you don't sign anyone .. not everyone you get will be a walkon. From the player's guide:

AUTO SIGNING:
Human coached teams will now auto-sign players after recruiting ends to get to 3 openings or less. So, if a team has 5 openings, they would auto-sign 2 players. The auto-sign logic at the end of recruiting will only sign guys to teams at their projected level. That means teams won't get lucky with a leftover from a higher division, and also won't get stuck with a guy from a lower division.

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The way I read that, you will get 3 Walk Ons and 3 Scholarship players out of those 6 openings.

Thanks for the info Hughesjr. So those players can be cut with no negative action since they weren't recruited by me in the future? I just want to make sure I am not stuck with them for 4 years.

Posted by gvsujulius on 10/4/2016 8:20:00 AM (view original):
Thanks for the info Hughesjr. So those players can be cut with no negative action since they weren't recruited by me in the future? I just want to make sure I am not stuck with them for 4 years.

Correct but you can only cut them in the second period.

Thanks cub.

Just going through the same with Charlotte. I knew I had 9 openings coming in and a 10th didn't qualify for SR/5 year, so it put me at 10. With 6 as a class limit and having a hard time finding JUCO players in scouting, I'll probably end up with 4 openings.

If I somehow hit my limit of 6 signings, will my auto-signings be JUCO or would that put me over the limit of 6 for this class?

I think the biggest adjustment for veteran coaches going into 3.0 will be having to redefine what constitutes a "signable" player. If you lost on out good players before you just waited a year and tried it again with more money. Now, you will have to get to 3 openings or risk getting guys auto-signed and only be able to recruit for those spots in the second period all over again. Based on what I am seeing, there are definitely leftovers that will be able to be signed even if you have exhausted all of your money and those guys are probably better than being stuck with auto-signees. If you ask me, that biggest struggle that everyone is having right now is letting go of the HD 2.0 way of doing things. I just don't think having 10 5 and 4 stars every year is just going to happen anymore. I guess we'll see...

I tried out a dumpster fire in Beta. Very tough. You will be limited to 3 walk-ons, the reset will be auto-signed. Auto-signed recruits appear as signed by "SimAI". However, unlike cutting recruits that you signed, that means that they may be rescinded at the beginning of recruiting period #2 and you will receive additional resources (AP & Budget).

Also, remember that on the final cycle, all recruits at your level will have scholarship unlocked. So, you may be able to keep a narrow focus and risk taking a couple auto-signs. Offer 1 or 2 scholarships in the final cycle (with no other resources allocated), but don't feel the need to avoid all possibility of auto-signing. The next season, you will still be able to keep a narrow focus, then rescind a "sim" signee and receive more resources in period #2.

Still, new resources in period #2 are worth far, far less than in period #1. You might still be able to sign senior x'fers, but they are hard to locate.