I have noticed some people changing their top players positions like SG to C but still starting at SG. I was wondering if this was gaming the system to either keep a guy longer or to possibly get them on the All American list? Does anyone have any thoughts?

Pete

In general, it doesn’t work like that. The system will evaluate your player based on attributes, not what you call him.

It’s possible that changing position may keep them away from awards, and that in turn could very slightly alter draft position and EE probability. Honestly, I’ve not looked that close at anyone who has tried it, to see if their guy made All-conference or All-American teams. I doubt it though, because if you play a SG at PG, he can still win awards, but at his listed position, not the position he played.

I doubt it's to get them on the All American list. As an effort to keep them from leaving early, it might be possible IF the Big Board/draft/EE logic employs the same default player roles formulas that it uses to rank recruits for recruiting (and I have no idea if they do or not...to be honest I've never given it much thought). But since each position has its own formula that favors certain attributes over others, it would be possible if that actually factors significantly into the process. Shrewd way to game the system if it actually works.

Posted by rednu on 9/5/2018 12:39:00 AM (view original):
I doubt it's to get them on the All American list. As an effort to keep them from leaving early, it might be possible IF the Big Board/draft/EE logic employs the same default player roles formulas that it uses to rank recruits for recruiting (and I have no idea if they do or not...to be honest I've never given it much thought). But since each position has its own formula that favors certain attributes over others, it would be possible if that actually factors significantly into the process. Shrewd way to game the system if it actually works.

It doesn't.

I change positions at D1 due to player improvements during previous season, and to maximize playing time for promised minutes.

Posted by shoe3 on 9/4/2018 8:40:00 PM (view original):
In general, it doesn’t work like that. The system will evaluate your player based on attributes, not what you call him.

It’s possible that changing position may keep them away from awards, and that in turn could very slightly alter draft position and EE probability. Honestly, I’ve not looked that close at anyone who has tried it, to see if their guy made All-conference or All-American teams. I doubt it though, because if you play a SG at PG, he can still win awards, but at his listed position, not the position he played.

"The system will evaluate your player based on attributes, not what you call him."

This is 100% accurate. A few seasons ago I had a Soph PF that was a stud in every regard, but being a Soph started the season as "likely staying" and in the 60's on the big board. As his speed/reb/def improved, the endive was having a hard time deciding which position he ranked best in (he was top 10 for C, but the field for PF and SF was rich that year so he wasn't ranked as high). During the course of the season, every few games he would jump up to top 20 on the big board, and his status would change to "on the fence" and a couple times "likely going", then then a game or two later he would drop back down to 50-60 and "Likely staying." This went on all year. I suspect there was another player ranked top 10 at C who's ratings were improving at a different rate, and kept bumping him in and out of the top 10 at that position. It was weird and the only time I have seen that kind of constant jumping (probably moved up and down the chart like that 8 times over the season), but showed me that the engine doesn't give a hoot what the label is next to a players name, only how the rank compared to other players with comparable ratings.

I've noticed exactly the same thing snafu.

THAT is a very interesting story snafu! must think about what that means - cause I have had some guys bounce around in the Big Board a little. Not that much. And you explanation - that the algorithm was moving him into a different position makes a lot of sense.

As a follow up, he was drafted 8th overall after he went EE.