I recall seeing a thread some time back in which some coaches saw some significant improvement to walk-on players after they were offered a scholarship.

Can't remember if it was to the current ratings, or if it was to work ethic and potentials. I'm thinking it may have been the latter.

Can anybody point me to that discussion or, if not, share your experiences when doing this?

I believe it is just in work ethic but I don't know from experience.

From experience, just WE and potentials. Always a WE bump, but the potentials are random. I have offered three walk ons a scholarship, and twice the potentials all improved. The third time they did not change at all.

Posted by wvufan76 on 9/10/2018 7:09:00 PM (view original):
From experience, just WE and potentials. Always a WE bump, but the potentials are random. I have offered three walk ons a scholarship, and twice the potentials all improved. The third time they did not change at all.

Wait...you're saying if you offer a walk-on a scholarship that a category that shows as, say, yellow, during his walk-on year might change to black, blue or green?

Posted by rednu on 9/11/2018 1:12:00 AM (view original):

Posted by wvufan76 on 9/10/2018 7:09:00 PM (view original):
From experience, just WE and potentials. Always a WE bump, but the potentials are random. I have offered three walk ons a scholarship, and twice the potentials all improved. The third time they did not change at all.

Wait...you're saying if you offer a walk-on a scholarship that a category that shows as, say, yellow, during his walk-on year might change to black, blue or green?

Yes. One of the three I offered some Reds and Orange changed to black, and some of the Blacks changed to Green and Blue. Since he was the first I ever offered, it really shocked the heck out of me. His name was William West (my WVU Squad maybe ten seasons ago), and I just liked him as he was decent and I had just had a very bad recruiting cycle, and I had to use him for depth and he scored and played D. He ended up starting some as a Senior as he improved very well.
The next guy (He was also a WVU recruit, do not remember his name) had a couple red and orange turn Black, but nothing as dramatic as West, and his WE went up to 99 (got accused of cheating, or finding a cheat to have his twenty something WE go to 99 and CS ended up sending the other Coach an email to get him off my back). The third guy was at UNC Greensboro, and he showed no improvement at all, his WE stayed single digit and tapped out on everything.
I will consider doing this in the future if I have a Walk on that is close to decent.

I gave this walkon a scholarship a few seasons ago in Crum.
WE went from 66 to 100 immediately.
No ratings colors changed.

https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerHistory/RatingsHistory.aspx?pid=3820707

https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerHistory/RatingsHistory.aspx?pid=3820707

So I just got a walk on with the following ratings:

Athleticism	32
Speed	38
Rebounding	22
Defense	58
Shot Blocking	8
Low-post	30
Perimeter	56
Ball Handling	40
Passing	55
Work Ethic	81
Stamina	66
Durability	55
FT Shooting	D

I like the 81 WE and 58 DEF as starting points. Even the 56 PER.

I'm thinking of taking the gamble and offering him a scholarship, hoping that the potentials change color and he can grow to be a serviceable SG off the bench.

Yea, or nay?

Try it if you want. I’d like to see an example. This thread is the only time I’ve heard of potential changing, but I don’t suppose coaches do it very often.

it would be really weird if potentials changed.

Has anyone actually seen it happen?

Posted by mamxet on 3/1/2019 8:36:00 PM (view original):
it would be really weird if potentials changed.

Has anyone actually seen it happen?

No. I'm floored that this is even a possibiity.

Posted by shoe3 on 3/1/2019 6:36:00 PM (view original):
Try it if you want. I’d like to see an example. This thread is the only time I’ve heard of potential changing, but I don’t suppose coaches do it very often.

Did a preliminary depth chart for my roster this season. Looks like he will be getting some minutes as fourth in the rotation at both guard positions, even as a walk on. I've never had that happen before. Which gives me more reason to consider doing this.

The worst that could happen is that I cut him at the end of the season. Not the worst thing in the world.

I'm going to sleep on this and make a decision sometime tomorrow.

Gave him the schollie.

WE went from 81 to 100. Nothing else (i.e. potentials) changed.

I think that’s probably how it’s supposed to be. If potentials have changed for folks in this situation, it’s likely an unintended glitch.

the most puzzling report is a two step change in potential - from red to black say

I can imagine somehow that the change from walkon to schollie player and or the big jump in WE had a tiny effect on potential enough to change one step in the color shown. A tiny decimal could do that. A two step change is totally shocking