So, I know that the effects of the training budget are usually seen at rollover (i.e., a guy gets more or less of his physical gains or losses based on the previous season's training budget). But does it take that extra year for the "super soldier" program to work? Or if a prospect sprains his toe in my first year with 20/20, should I go ahead and put him on the 60-day?

Yes. I don't think training has anything to do with the injury bug, just medical. I've noticed that the best injuries to use this on are the minor, 10-45ish day injuries. But some injuries aren't worth it. Like if a pitcher has a leg injury and loses speed and base running for example.

This season I had my Ace go down with a shoulder aneurysm mid season for 300+ days. The ratings hit was bad but when the next season starts I'll add him to the 60 day again and hopefully he'll gain most back, and hopefully more on top of what he originally had...we'll see!

Yeah, you kind of have to get a little lucky with the type of injury and the timing. Say it's late in the season and a player gets a season-ender but he'll be healthy again after rollover... you're out of luck there. Last season my SP1 pitched one game and blew his elbow out, at the age of 36. Had never been inured before. He got the one injury recovery bump at the end of the season and that was it, because he was healthy after rollover. I had to let him walk in free agency, he went from SP1 to LR just like that.

And as was said, it doesn't matter much if a pitcher gets a leg injury. Optimum case is he gets like a sprained shoulder at the end of training camp, you can leave him in the training room and he'll still be back after the all star game. And then really optimum case - for training bug - is you get a player who gets like four or five of those types of DL stints.

Have you guys ever tried to run a prospect into the ground to force an injury?

Back to my Ace I mentioned above. I had it work out perfect a couple seasons ago. He had a short term injury early in spring training, threw him on the 60 Day DL, missed only 40ish regular season games, and came back +3 rating points more than before the injury in Control/vL/vR and 1 or 2 in pitches AND added some stamina, which was big as he was at 70 pre-injury.

Agree with all of the above. It is all about the timing of the injury and what body part they injured. Medical affects how long and how much of a ratings hit the player takes when he gets injured. The training affects, the way that I understand it, helps with frequency of injury and the recovery of injury.

Slightly different question but I have a veteran that has a 15 day injury. We only have 10 games left in the regular season. If I put him on the 60 day DL, will he get a bump at any point?

Yes, I believe it's 2 days before the end of the regular season ends.

Posted by LoboOne04 on 12/12/2018 1:13:00 PM (view original):
Have you guys ever tried to run a prospect into the ground to force an injury?

This one is a dangerous game. I always worry if I injure my prospects that it may impede their natural development. I prefer boarderline ML’ers or the guys that are AAAA prospects that are 27+. Those ones, don’t be afraid to break.

I don’t understand this conversation - how does a player ever improve from being injured? (New to the game)

No, it's been around as long as I can remember. It's an injury bug. If you have $20M in medical and put the guy on the 60-day, the majority of the time he will be better after his second injury recovery cycle than he was before he got hurt.