So I signed a guy who is very talented, but gets tired just tying his shoes.

I promised him 15 minutes - which I think may or may not work if he is a backup set to normal fatigue settings. Maybe it will.

Any approaches folks might share for dealing with low stamina guys in this situation? I'm thinking about forcing him to play a ton of minutes - with some extreme settings - in a few games perhaps against lesser opponents - so he can meet his 15 minutes with more like 10 minutes in his other games....

Any other ideas?

Pos.	GPA	FG%	FT%	A	SPD	ST	DU	LP	PE	BH	P	REB	DE	BLK	WE	FT	OVR
C	3.12	53.7	63.1	90	31	41	57	93	14	22	53	90	90	90	19	C-	690

If you can get away with starting him, that’s the simplest way to get him his minutes. Set him to getting tired to start the season. He should be good for 16+ most nights, unless he gets in foul trouble. If he’s only getting to 13-14, you could bump him back to tired. Your frontline guy will still get the bulk of the minutes, so it shouldn’t hurt much to start him, especially since he’s got the talent level to hold his own.

If you don’t want to do that, the tricky part about coming off the bench is you have less control over his minutes. If the guy he’s behind has good stamina and is getting 25+ per night, it might be hard for the freshman to make 15. Most guys are ok with 13, but obviously the more the better. You could make him the first backup at both frontcourt positions, again set to getting tired to start, maybe down to tired against weaker opponents, and that should do it. You could also use target minutes. I do that a lot, especially early in the season, to fulfill promises, especially multiple promises.

oh man, that stamina + WE combo is brutal! is he green at least?

he sure looks like he could tolerate starting, i mean hes already championship caliber ratings wise, feels like you should be able to take the iq and fatigue hit for a while? i'd go start him on fairly fresh at the PF spot and hopefully he'll wrack up enough minutes. i cant recall ever having a player even close to that bad of stamina (but i press too much to consider those guys). so im really not sure what you should expect minutes wise.

some blend of starts and target minutes looks like the way

I am intrigued by the question how bad would he be if I made him play 23 minutes against some bad SIM squad.....can we win with 4 guys running the court and him staying back, hands on his knees.......

Yes, green in stamina. Lots of minutes - probably to the point of diminishing returns - to be spent on conditioning for this guy. But he should give us a great 10 minutes off the bench in post season.....i hope...

Just keep in mind that you basically can't score with him because in my experience giving super low ST players distro makes them foul out in <=10 min.

I don't think that's right at all.

Distro/scoring is not linked in any way to fatigue or foul rate to the best of my knowledge.

Maybe just some bad luck somewhere along the way?

Interesting - I'll try to test that out at least in exhibitions.

I would like him to be a guy who comes in and scores - at least SO year and beyond. Will see what I can learn about foul effects from distro.

Posted by dahsdebater on 1/22/2020 1:23:00 PM (view original):
I don't think that's right at all.

Distro/scoring is not linked in any way to fatigue or foul rate to the best of my knowledge.

Maybe just some bad luck somewhere along the way?

i agree with your conclusion - i don't think there is anything that says you can't give that low of a fatigue guy distro. i think its harder to start him, with that awful stamina, but you can let him shoot.

i would guess offensive fouls are a little more likely for the shooter, but i can't really back that up at all... still, even if true, the net increase in fouling would be quite small. i agree there is no fatigue impact.

Ok, sure, the more you shoot the more offensive fouls you generate. I've never seen anybody foul out in this game in under 10 minutes under the weight of offensive fouls. I don't think I've ever had a player average even close to 1 offensive foul per game (though I haven't read box scores in years, so I can't say that with confidence).

Posted by metsmax on 1/14/2020 2:01:00 PM (view original):
So I signed a guy who is very talented, but gets tired just tying his shoes.

I promised him 15 minutes - which I think may or may not work if he is a backup set to normal fatigue settings. Maybe it will.

Any approaches folks might share for dealing with low stamina guys in this situation? I'm thinking about forcing him to play a ton of minutes - with some extreme settings - in a few games perhaps against lesser opponents - so he can meet his 15 minutes with more like 10 minutes in his other games....

Any other ideas?

I am at or near signing a similar guy in division III he is a Motion red which means he is the same offense as my team. He is a Power Forward and still battle in for him until end of period 01 I have promised 20 mins and a start which he can start right away.