I have a guy Richard Brown on my Illinois team. #3 recruit in the country. Total stud, right.

He's a weird player, a guard like SF with good LP and really poor speed.

So when he came in it looks like he was being processed by the big board as a guard. And the speed actually held him back enough to keep him off the big board at the start of the year.

Two days ago he jumped from off the big board to 81. My guess is his reb just bumped up high enough to change the formula from guard to forward. Now the speed doesn't hold him back as much, as he gets higher.

Now what I consider the weird part, yesterday Brown jumped from 78 to 81 even though he just gained 1 pt of reb and 1 pt of WE. Remember, I'm cubcub so I reaaaally limit the growth of my possible EE guys.

Each day he's only improving roughly 1/3 pt SP, 1/2 pt REB, 1/6 pt DE, 1/6 PT STA.

So there are two different possibilities here, (1) he was just insanely tightly bunched with the 3 guys who used to be ahead of him or (2) the 1/2 pt of reb is super influential on his possible big board placement after he switches formulas.

Any guesses?

its that incremental improvement that drives the big board rankings - as in, it doesn't really matter what the guy shows - the decimal value, if you will, is used. we only see the integer on the ratings but behind the scenes, i believe basically everything uses the decimal value.

one thing i'll add - i know a lot of that 'he switched to the sf formula' stuff comes from me. my opinion on that has been evolving a bit. what is abundantly clear is there are multiple formulas by which a player can be evaluated, and when they 'switch' from one to another, this can lead to major jumps/drops. however, i'm not sure its really ideal to call them guard/sf/big formulas. two reasons. one, the formulas clearly make very little sense. the rankings for the board and for recruits have never made a lot of sense - well, they've never been very closely tied to what actually makes a player good.

i can't decide if the game just has ridiculously terrible formulas for pg/sg/sf/pf/c and so the jumps between formulas make little sense, or if it has multiple formulas that are just sort of... out there, not really even attempts for a specific position, more attempts at capturing certain skill sets.

anyway, i always called these the sg/sf/whatever formulas because i was searching for a name for the phenomenon, but i'm not sure the name really captures it. specifically, there are numerous cases where what i consider the sf formula is advantageous - certain really high, well rounded SFs, get the best treatment on the board. this seems clear. on the other hand, i've seen both guards and bigs jump, and i agreed that presumably those guys were moving to a more SF-y formula - but they jumped, instead of dropped. which seems backwards. so i can't tell if the formulas are just utter nonsense, or if the game creators were trying to capture something. i'm pretty confident about the under-the-hood mechanism with multiple formulas and all that. but the nature of what those formulas are attempting to do reflect a mystery to me.

also just to be clear, i'm not saying your guy is one of those confusing cases. bh/pass are over valued in the SF formula and always have been. high lp + per also tends to hit hard in the SF formula, well, at least compared to guards - because your guards are getting that LP at a *significant* discount. that low speed, decent reb, higher lp - it definitely could be the case that you flipped to a SF formula, and are now paying a significantly larger amount for lp, reb, and ath - while paying some, but not massively, less for your speed, bh, and pass - and that just may not be enough to offset.

Yeah he's 73 LP 89 Per caps which is just not close to ideal.

Getting 7 points of black 81/82 PER is just depressing; I thought the insanity of how good he was would offset his 100% chance to leave after 3 years. But 95 PER/ 89 PER is just such a big difference

Wish I could have 73 20 or 20 89 and -2 or +2 him and be able to keep him for 4 years. :(