Posted by shoe3 on 8/21/2020 8:07:00 PM (view original):
“Teams you mentioned.... Nebraska, Penn St, Rutgers...
those programs are garbage!”
So let’s acknowledge first of all, these are the bottom of the barrel, the worst examples (along with previously mentioned Northwestern) you have. Sure. They’re garbage. And you know what? At any point, any one of those teams *could* turn around and begin to build what becomes a dynasty, like UConn did in the Calhoun era. They *probably* won’t but they *can*, because the NCAA isn’t holding them back with an imaginary baseline tether.
“We're talking about baseline, a starting point that will change. But trying to create a fair starting point. It's mindboggling to think that people feel all schools are equal past the top 8. Louisville? Michigan? Xavier? Virginia?
Some others, San Francisco, George Mason, Houston, Indiana State.... those type of teams have had "A" peak. That's not prestige.”
No offense doggg, but sometimes I’m like “what in the actual hell is he talking about?” This is one of those times. This game *does not* use baseline as a “starting point” that will change. You understand that, right? Am I misunderstanding you? That’s the whole problem. If it was, that would be completely rational, and I’d have no issue. But that isn’t how this game works. Baseline in this game is a tether, binding the team relatively close to that baseline, making it difficult to maintain anything more than a grade and 1/3 or so up or down from it. I think you probably get that, but just so everyone reading this is clear. Baseline prestige in this game IS NOT just a starting point.
And what the hell do SF, GM, Houston, and Indiana St have to do with anything? Those are not power conference schools. They are not involved in this discussion. No one is talking about “making them equal“ with Syracuse.
“I'm just arguing for simple understanding of what basketball has looked like the since the day HD began.”
But you’re really not. You have admitted this isn’t about realism, since there is obviously no official NCAA mechanism keeping BC or Stanford (or Cal) at their established 2005 “baseline”. This is about what kind of game you want to play. So while we’re discussing, let’s stay really clear on that point.
You know exactly what I'm talking about. You just wanna be difficult. Of course I don't mean "starting point" now because there are no worlds starting. They've all got 100 seasons. Maybe for you i should say "a destination point. For which the gravitation pull towards the mean, begins". More scientific for you to be able to understand now?
And trust me, i don't take offense. I'm a casual guy. I need a thesaurus and coffee to read each of your posts. Not my style
But I will admit I was wrong on one part. I was so caught up in arguing with you, that I mistakenly thought npb was starting that ALL D1s should have equal baseline. My error there. We're talking about big 6 only. So forgive me on the "San fransisco, George Mason, Indiana state" part of my comment