I'm pretty sure I've read the #1 indicator of a players willingness to re-sign long term or coming off a long term contract and eligible for another is the Patience rating. Is that right? like upper 90's rating is pretty strong indicator to not sweat bullets over giving up the farm for a guy with a few years left before contract is up or is it who really knows?

I treat it as probability (don’t take this as the truth but it’ll make you less sad if they don’t resign) put 100 ping pong balls in a jar. Red is they will resign, Blue is they won’t. A patience rating of 90 would be 90 red balls and 10 blue. A patience rating of 60 would be 60 red and 40 blue. And so on.

nothing is ever certain but I’d be willing to bet money that a 90+ patience rating person will resign.

Thanks, thats the way i recall it as well. Guy in question is 98 patience current. 2 yrs on contract and is stud on the T-block. Gauging what to offer given its not 100%

Update for posterity... I offered 3 prospects.. A decent sp i signed as ifa proj 81 overall but poor vs r split a 3b taken at 13 last yr draft all 80s splits and power low cnt and eye and makeup and defense cf career backup imo for 3 time cy young 88 overall sp avg 260 innings w only 2 yrs guaranteed br fa age 30. Accepted

I traded for a star CF once who was on the next to last year of his contract. His patience rating was 98. When his contract was up, he wouldn't resign with me. I had a winning team. I learned that you can't bank on a high patience to equal that they will sign.

Its just like those 99 health guys and 20-20 in Training/Medicals that still get injured for 350 days. Gives you a better chance than not but no guarantees.

I've seen a 98 Patience guy go free agent after I arb'ed him three times.

I've seen a 49 Health guy go an entire career without a major 60-Day DL injury.

I've seen a "Probably won't sign" draftee sign right away and go on to have a HOF career.

We can say what things are supposed to mean, but there has been at least one exception to everything in this game. Nothing is 100%.

Posted by damag on 2/25/2021 11:03:00 AM (view original):
I've seen a 98 Patience guy go free agent after I arb'ed him three times.

I've seen a 49 Health guy go an entire career without a major 60-Day DL injury.

I've seen a "Probably won't sign" draftee sign right away and go on to have a HOF career.

We can say what things are supposed to mean, but there has been at least one exception to everything in this game. Nothing is 100%.

He could have a 600 patience rating and he still hits free agency after arb'ng him 3 times. The only way that doesn't happen if you trade him during the 3rd season and he could sign with new team.

Posted by ramonshaw on 2/25/2021 11:09:00 AM (view original):

Posted by damag on 2/25/2021 11:03:00 AM (view original):
I've seen a 98 Patience guy go free agent after I arb'ed him three times.

I've seen a 49 Health guy go an entire career without a major 60-Day DL injury.

I've seen a "Probably won't sign" draftee sign right away and go on to have a HOF career.

We can say what things are supposed to mean, but there has been at least one exception to everything in this game. Nothing is 100%.

He could have a 600 patience rating and he still hits free agency after arb'ng him 3 times. The only way that doesn't happen if you trade him during the 3rd season and he could sign with new team.

I had a 98 Patience guy go to Arb five times, and he was still willing to sign LT after the fifth one - Player Profile: Bo Humphries - Hardball Dynasty Baseball | WhatIfSports

How did you arb him 5 times?

OK, his minor league stats are no longer showing on his player card. Midway through his third ML season he wasn't getting any results and I demoted him to AAA, he stayed there for his fourth season, and made it back to the majors partway through his fifth. It was completely unintentional, but it delayed his service time. He stayed between three and five seasons of major league service - thus arb eligible - two seasons longer than usual.