I've never coached a D1 team in this game, and I'm trying to get there in Tark and Iba.

I just got rejected by four D1 schools in Tark, and just wanted to share for the sake of discussion & others who may be trying to jump to D1.

I was planning to "fall back" on Princeton, since it said I qualified for the job and they at least have a couple decent outside shooters returning so that might help me win some games while I rebuild. But - partly based on forum discussions about "long shot jobs" working now - I decided to reach for better jobs with all 4 of my applications, and was willing to return to the D2 school I just went to the E8 with if I didn't get any of the 4.

I initially applied to Southern Cal and Missouri, and those two jobs were filled by the coaches who had been at San Diego State and Michigan, respectively. I applied to San Diego State and Michigan, which are sort of in opposite places right now. Michigan is a "legacy" program (B baseline prestige), but is not very good currently. SD State is less of a "legacy" program (C baseline prestige) but finished the season ranked #15, and is currently a better program.

Both jobs were filled, but at the time I was rejected neither was filled.

All four rejection emails seemed more of the "we're rejecting you based on your experience" vs "we went with a more experienced coach," so I'm assuming I would not have gotten the jobs even if they had gone unfilled.

I actually expected that I might not be able to go D1 at all this season, because I coached 3 teams in 3 seasons (one season at D3 -> one season at a bad D2 bc I applied for jobs not realizing one decent D3 season qualifies you for D2 jobs -> jumped to the best-available, sim-coached, D2 team). Again, I applied for 4 D1 jobs that I thought would be fun knowing I might not get any of the 4 and being ok with possibly returning for another season at Barry, but...

I want to understand the process a little better for the next time around.

I think it would make sense for not qualified to mean not qualified. Maybe it does and I just misunderstood what was meant by "long shot jobs work now," but I thought the recent tweak meant that you have a slim chance of getting jobs that say not qualified. Do we know for sure what the case is? Still fairly new to this, and forgive me if this is already the case, but it might make sense for there to be three categories such as Qualified, Longshot, and Not Qualified.

Also, just for discussion:

I sort of thought the differences between Michigan and SD State meant I would (longshot) qualify for one of the two if not both. If Michigan's baseline prestige/"legacy" status/conference/whatever disqualified me, then I thought SD State's lower baseline prestige/non-"legacy" status/conference/whatever would not. Conversely, if SD State's current prestige/status DQ'd me, then I thought Michigan's current (downish) status would not DQ me.

It would make sense to me if both baseline and current prestige are factored in and the thing I was looking at as an "either/or" turned out to be a "both/and" (both Michigan's baseline prestige and SD State's current prestige DQ'd me), but just want to see if there are public "knowns" about these factors.

Thanks!

My current coach prestige in Tark is A+ and loyalty is C.

I believe they changed the messages to match the updated algorithm, because last season when I came back to HD, it said I was only qualified for D- schools. This year I was qualified for every school, including the A prestige ones.

Posted by bigham23 on 4/23/2021 4:06:00 PM (view original):
I've never coached a D1 team in this game, and I'm trying to get there in Tark and Iba.

I just got rejected by four D1 schools in Tark, and just wanted to share for the sake of discussion & others who may be trying to jump to D1.

I was planning to "fall back" on Princeton, since it said I qualified for the job and they at least have a couple decent outside shooters returning so that might help me win some games while I rebuild. But - partly based on forum discussions about "long shot jobs" working now - I decided to reach for better jobs with all 4 of my applications, and was willing to return to the D2 school I just went to the E8 with if I didn't get any of the 4.

I initially applied to Southern Cal and Missouri, and those two jobs were filled by the coaches who had been at San Diego State and Michigan, respectively. I applied to San Diego State and Michigan, which are sort of in opposite places right now. Michigan is a "legacy" program (B baseline prestige), but is not very good currently. SD State is less of a "legacy" program (C baseline prestige) but finished the season ranked #15, and is currently a better program.

Both jobs were filled, but at the time I was rejected neither was filled.

All four rejection emails seemed more of the "we're rejecting you based on your experience" vs "we went with a more experienced coach," so I'm assuming I would not have gotten the jobs even if they had gone unfilled.

I actually expected that I might not be able to go D1 at all this season, because I coached 3 teams in 3 seasons (one season at D3 -> one season at a bad D2 bc I applied for jobs not realizing one decent D3 season qualifies you for D2 jobs -> jumped to the best-available, sim-coached, D2 team). Again, I applied for 4 D1 jobs that I thought would be fun knowing I might not get any of the 4 and being ok with possibly returning for another season at Barry, but...

I want to understand the process a little better for the next time around.

I think it would make sense for not qualified to mean not qualified. Maybe it does and I just misunderstood what was meant by "long shot jobs work now," but I thought the recent tweak meant that you have a slim chance of getting jobs that say not qualified. Do we know for sure what the case is? Still fairly new to this, and forgive me if this is already the case, but it might make sense for there to be three categories such as Qualified, Longshot, and Not Qualified.

Also, just for discussion:

I sort of thought the differences between Michigan and SD State meant I would (longshot) qualify for one of the two if not both. If Michigan's baseline prestige/"legacy" status/conference/whatever disqualified me, then I thought SD State's lower baseline prestige/non-"legacy" status/conference/whatever would not. Conversely, if SD State's current prestige/status DQ'd me, then I thought Michigan's current (downish) status would not DQ me.

It would make sense to me if both baseline and current prestige are factored in and the thing I was looking at as an "either/or" turned out to be a "both/and" (both Michigan's baseline prestige and SD State's current prestige DQ'd me), but just want to see if there are public "knowns" about these factors.

Thanks!

Not qualified means not qualified.

longshot/keep looking means you aren’t getting the job but you’re close

qualified/step backwards means you’re qualified

Thanks for the feedback!

After 3 ok seasons in Iba, a winning % at ~80, and 3 early NT exits (1 tournament win), I’m “qualified” for 159 schools, and “not qualified” for 50. Nothing in-between. Included in the “qualified” schools are 2 power conference schools, both at D+ prestige.

Just some interesting info.