The F's just mean you have not found the info.

Posted by mamxet on 5/1/2021 7:38:00 PM (view original):
The F's just mean you have not found the info.

which is F'ing ridiculous! if it shows scouted level 1, it should be scouted level 1.

Side note... IQ and ratings growth will be better if you fill out all 12 roster spots. That's a 2nd reason to take a 1-year transfer, in addition to helping teams that run FB/Press.

Posted by phalla on 5/1/2021 5:21:00 PM (view original):
The question is NOT whether a D1 is ok recruiting a D3 (one years are always attractive).

The mystery would be how was he discovered.

check the other guy mjs signed, also a d3 transfer. I also found him.

How?

I FSSed tons of D3 states hoping to find these 1 year transfers.

Posted by npb7768 on 5/2/2021 11:46:00 AM (view original):
Side note... IQ and ratings growth will be better if you fill out all 12 roster spots. That's a 2nd reason to take a 1-year transfer, in addition to helping teams that run FB/Press.

i don't believe this is quite true, i think there is a hit after the 2nd walkon or something, but its also pretty slight, more or less negligible. i've lost too many of these details after taking a few years off, but i'm sure someone knows precisely when the practice plan penalty kicks in. if i had to bet i'd say its the 3rd walkon and thereafter where you take a hit, but i definitely am not confident (but its definitely not the 1st). can anyone clarify?

Posted by gillispie on 5/2/2021 2:38:00 PM (view original):

Posted by npb7768 on 5/2/2021 11:46:00 AM (view original):
Side note... IQ and ratings growth will be better if you fill out all 12 roster spots. That's a 2nd reason to take a 1-year transfer, in addition to helping teams that run FB/Press.

i don't believe this is quite true, i think there is a hit after the 2nd walkon or something, but its also pretty slight, more or less negligible. i've lost too many of these details after taking a few years off, but i'm sure someone knows precisely when the practice plan penalty kicks in. if i had to bet i'd say its the 3rd walkon and thereafter where you take a hit, but i definitely am not confident (but its definitely not the 1st). can anyone clarify?

ok, thankd gil

Posted by gillispie on 5/2/2021 2:38:00 PM (view original):

Posted by npb7768 on 5/2/2021 11:46:00 AM (view original):
Side note... IQ and ratings growth will be better if you fill out all 12 roster spots. That's a 2nd reason to take a 1-year transfer, in addition to helping teams that run FB/Press.

i don't believe this is quite true, i think there is a hit after the 2nd walkon or something, but its also pretty slight, more or less negligible. i've lost too many of these details after taking a few years off, but i'm sure someone knows precisely when the practice plan penalty kicks in. if i had to bet i'd say its the 3rd walkon and thereafter where you take a hit, but i definitely am not confident (but its definitely not the 1st). can anyone clarify?

A long time ago, it was after the third walk-on when the practice penalty started to accrue. However, due to the increased PT of the scholarship players, the gains made were often more than enough to offset any negligible penalty for extra walk-ons. Could have changed since those olden days but I'd venture that it's still the same.

Posted by cubcub113 on 5/2/2021 2:20:00 PM (view original):

Posted by phalla on 5/1/2021 5:21:00 PM (view original):
The question is NOT whether a D1 is ok recruiting a D3 (one years are always attractive).

The mystery would be how was he discovered.

check the other guy mjs signed, also a d3 transfer. I also found him.

How?

I FSSed tons of D3 states hoping to find these 1 year transfers.

8.7.3

This might be more difficult for lower division coaches to grasp, if they don’t know how big the D1 scouting budget is, and especially if they haven’t experienced the first RS2 session after a job change. But having gone through that a number of times, this makes perfect sense to me. I have normally stayed at the D2 level and stuck with traditional jucos rather than transfers, but knowing how much ground you can cover via FSS, this is certainly a viable option for transfers, if that’s what you’re looking for, especially using the game log technique to “scout”.

If you don’t know the game log technique, for transfers, you don’t need to fully scout them to see their ratings, and even get a sense for what kind of growth they might have, though you can’t see their potential directly without scouting them. You just have to know what school they’re coming from, then look at that schools game logs. If they played in games, you can see the player in the schools game logs, and see their attributes, and “scout” them that way. If the recruit contacts you, then the scouting report is free. If not, then you do need to discover the player somehow, generally the best way is to FSS a state (and level) you have not previously FSS’d, preferably shortly before a recruiting cycle to give maximum time for coaches to cut players, and to increase odds that your search will pull someone (this is why the timing in this case is actually not suspect at all).

The D1 scouting budget is so large, especially if you’re just there for RS2, and if you’re only going for transfers and need the level 1 info to do it, then you can basically get the whole country at every level, no problem. The trick is, you can only FSS a state one time, so if you do it right away as scouting opens up you will miss the new transfers that get cut, and would have to discover them via the more expensive assistant scout route.