but once he returns, I have seen a player receive an accelerated development compared to a player in the same year. So, if you compared a player that was in year 3 and had no Injuries to a player in year 3, but had 1 major injury during year 2, the player with no injuries is going to be closer to his true peak projections than the player that had the injury.

Interesting, I hadn't ever paid close enough attention to notice a catch up pattern. Would also make sense from a balance perspective when comparing IFA's signed early near ST vs. draft pics that signed late.

All this talk of injury and development is making me rethink my desire to try $20M med budgets and just stick my $0. Seems the $20/$20 crowd gets (understandably) more tilted when the catastrophic injuries occur.

Posted by brianplath on 7/30/2021 6:39:00 PM (view original):

but once he returns, I have seen a player receive an accelerated development compared to a player in the same year. So, if you compared a player that was in year 3 and had no Injuries to a player in year 3, but had 1 major injury during year 2, the player with no injuries is going to be closer to his true peak projections than the player that had the injury.

Interesting, I hadn't ever paid close enough attention to notice a catch up pattern. Would also make sense from a balance perspective when comparing IFA's signed early near ST vs. draft pics that signed late.

All this talk of injury and development is making me rethink my desire to try $20M med budgets and just stick my $0. Seems the $20/$20 crowd gets (understandably) more tilted when the catastrophic injuries occur.

I think it's just the math. If in year 3 and the player is further away from his peak, he will gain more than the guy who never had an injury because the guy who was never got injured is closer to his peak due to the development that he received when he wasn't injured. So, if development is what i think it is, a percent of the difference between current rating and potential peak rating (-) some multiplier for which year their in, it only makes sense that the guy that got injured would have the illusion of accelerated growth.

Posted by tlowster on 7/26/2021 5:36:00 PM (view original):
I have a World that is about to start the World Series. In this World, I have a couple of midling prospects that I can try this on.

Both received at least 1 point in L split and R split during the season. They also both played some games in the playoffs without receiving a promotion yet. One of them already had his five regular season development cycles (as noted above, each bump he gained at least one point in both splits). The other has only had 4 development cycles so far in the season (as noted above, he too has also gained at least one point in both splits during each cycle). I will purposely not promote these guys and see if they gain anything in splits during the roll.

Reporting back on this. The two guys that i purposely did not promote during the previous, did not get anything during roll. Sure, maybe they might get some in the spring training bump and maybe some of that spring training bump that they get makes up for the lost opportunity of a ratings increase in late season promotion from the previous season, but why not get the bumps when they come and avoid the potential of missing out on any development that might cease or might be minimized once they reach a certain age.

Yeah I find it hard to believe that the ST bumps are bigger for these kinds of guys. They had new ratings push to their player cards when the season rolled over it’d be really strange programming if any increases from last season weren’t accounted for at that time.

this is the main reason minor league integrity is such a big deal. If one manager DNGAF about the minors and goes 0-fer (I've seen it multiple times) then those minor league teams in his/her division benefit because minor's is not a balanced schedule. Those extra 6 or so games against the 0-fer teams could be the difference between a playoff push and a ratings boost to key prospects and missing out on the playoffs all together.

I think Admin cares more about minor league integrity because when the DNGAF owner does not fill out his roster, the team ends up having games that do not run and that takes up Admin's time and resources. When they implement the changes to the minor leagues, it will fix some of the minor league integrity issues, but there will still be some owners that run with the bare minimum roster. I think the changes will prevent games from not running and will turn those 0-fer minor league squads into 25 win teams. Anything more than that will likely need to be policed by each World on an individual level.