Max out the the areas you want and totally neglect Practice Minutes not caring(maybe hoping) if they become ineligible. I have a Fr SG with some potential as a Def Player. Should end up 90+ ath and Def in FB/Press. has a 2.2 gpa coming in. what's the downside as I don't need or care to play him in the first year maybe 2?

Someone correct me if I’m wrong, as I’ve never had a player go ineligible, but they don’t progress while ineligible, do they? I know they don’t progress their first year on campus if they DNQ. Unrelated, but I’ve also always found it absurd that injured players don’t progress until they’re 100%, even though they’re playing in games.

I’m intrigued by this strategy. You would presumably start the player up until he became ineligible. Then the promise start would go away year 2?

Additionally if the player does not progress while ineligible, wouldn’t that be an EE management bonus?

I thought someone said they'd leave if this occurred? Is that not true? I've also never had a player become ineligible. To me that's the most unacceptable thing you can allow to happen to yourself in HD! (Unless it's intentional)

Why is it unacceptable? Being aggressive with practice minutes is unacceptable? Especially if it’s a player you don’t necessarily need to rely on? If the engine allows it how is it unacceptable.

Posted by shoe3 on 7/16/2022 1:01:00 PM (view original):
Someone correct me if I’m wrong, as I’ve never had a player go ineligible, but they don’t progress while ineligible, do they? I know they don’t progress their first year on campus if they DNQ. Unrelated, but I’ve also always found it absurd that injured players don’t progress until they’re 100%, even though they’re playing in games.

I did not know this - That is dumb. I don't get that.

Posted by Fregoe on 7/17/2022 1:21:00 PM (view original):
Why is it unacceptable? Being aggressive with practice minutes is unacceptable? Especially if it’s a player you don’t necessarily need to rely on? If the engine allows it how is it unacceptable.

I think Top’s comment was made tongue in cheek.

As for your post, I guess I’m confused. In the subject you said you promised him starts but then in the post itself said you don’t need to play him for 1-2 years. If you promised the start and don’t start him, he’ll likely transfer. As for not giving him SH minutes-yes, he’ll likely become ineligible and won’t improve his IQ or other categories. I guess the downside would be while he’d have a solid DEF rating his IQ would be low when you’d needed him.

Posted by darnoc29099 on 7/18/2022 10:37:00 AM (view original):

Posted by Fregoe on 7/17/2022 1:21:00 PM (view original):
Why is it unacceptable? Being aggressive with practice minutes is unacceptable? Especially if it’s a player you don’t necessarily need to rely on? If the engine allows it how is it unacceptable.

I think Top’s comment was made tongue in cheek.

As for your post, I guess I’m confused. In the subject you said you promised him starts but then in the post itself said you don’t need to play him for 1-2 years. If you promised the start and don’t start him, he’ll likely transfer. As for not giving him SH minutes-yes, he’ll likely become ineligible and won’t improve his IQ or other categories. I guess the downside would be while he’d have a solid DEF rating his IQ would be low when you’d needed him.

I promised the start. So I plan on starting him so he doesn't transfer. But if he became ineligible it would benefit my team because I could play guys who are more ready this season. but season 2,3,4 he could be a nice piece off the bench. Sacrificing a few weeks of growth might be worth not having to start them for a few weeks.

Posted by Fregoe on 7/17/2022 1:21:00 PM (view original):
Why is it unacceptable? Being aggressive with practice minutes is unacceptable? Especially if it’s a player you don’t necessarily need to rely on? If the engine allows it how is it unacceptable.

I mean, I don't know if it's "unacceptable", but it's easily avoidable. It's the difference between being aggressive and being reckless. You get plenty of warnings and if a kid is below a 2.3 on the midterms, then you just need to add 1 extra minute to study hall. That 1 minute isn't going to make a huge difference in rating growth. I'd rather give up that 1 minute than take a chance they become ineligible and lose a large chunk of growth for the rest of the season.

Although I've never had a player go ineligible so I don't know the exact odds that it happens. You might not need a player that season, but you might need them in the future, and I'd rather not take a chance stunting their growth. I guess that's a personal decision though.

fregoe is talking about intentionally letting your promised guy fail out so that its easier to make grades (as long as you are meeting the promise when he fails, you are good). this is something i have tried for every few seasons lately, there's some value there. only 1 guy failed out but when he did, it was sweet!

Posted by shoe3 on 7/16/2022 1:01:00 PM (view original):
Someone correct me if I’m wrong, as I’ve never had a player go ineligible, but they don’t progress while ineligible, do they? I know they don’t progress their first year on campus if they DNQ. Unrelated, but I’ve also always found it absurd that injured players don’t progress until they’re 100%, even though they’re playing in games.

players do progress when ineligible from college grades. it will slow down your improvement through the playing time loss and also for extra minutes in SH, but otherwise, its the same - you still practice. it will also hurt off-season improvement if you have a guy fail to make grades on the 2nd grades.

Posted by gillispie on 7/19/2022 1:10:00 PM (view original):

Posted by shoe3 on 7/16/2022 1:01:00 PM (view original):
Someone correct me if I’m wrong, as I’ve never had a player go ineligible, but they don’t progress while ineligible, do they? I know they don’t progress their first year on campus if they DNQ. Unrelated, but I’ve also always found it absurd that injured players don’t progress until they’re 100%, even though they’re playing in games.

players do progress when ineligible from college grades. it will slow down your improvement through the playing time loss and also for extra minutes in SH, but otherwise, its the same - you still practice. it will also hurt off-season improvement if you have a guy fail to make grades on the 2nd grades.

Good to know - but that makes it super unacceptable that injured players don’t progress until they are 100%. Has to be a bug.

Posted by Fregoe on 7/17/2022 1:21:00 PM (view original):
Why is it unacceptable? Being aggressive with practice minutes is unacceptable? Especially if it’s a player you don’t necessarily need to rely on? If the engine allows it how is it unacceptable.

Personally I just don't feel like practice minutes are THAT important, in comparison to keeping my players. 5 minutes or so to SH out of 130 doesn't make much difference. But losing a player to grades because of my own decision making...... that's just not for me. Especially in D1 where I find myself with 8, 9, and 10 man rosters at times.

If a coach doesn't mind losing a player, then sure, be aggressive. But I've never signed a player that I don't consider to be important, or I likely wouldn't have signed him in the first place. So having a bunch of 13s and 5 SH minutes for ME, is much better than a bunch of 14s and 0 in SH minutes, and risking the loss of a player during a championship run (or even a F4 run or E8 run). Losing rolls is one thing. Losing players I have on my roster already because of my choices is just not something I want to do.