Maddux or Bonds? Topic

Man. I love the progressive leagues. Building a team for a long run is just so much fun. The league I'm in is really well run which is awesome. Draft order is based on combined wins over 4 years. I knew my team would be bottom feeders for awhile but wasn't sure when I would get my early picks. 86 is a good year to go first!
9/18/2022 8:28 PM
Posted by DoctorKz on 9/10/2022 9:02:00 AM (view original):
I would put the pick on the trading block, see if you get a Herschel Walker return...


In 1989, at the peak of Walker's NFL career, the Cowboys sent Herschel Walker to the Vikings for five players and six draft picks.

The players were LB Jesse Solomon, DB Isiac Holt, RB Darrin Nelson, LB David Howard, and DE Alex Stewart.

The picks turned into players such as Emmitt Smith, Russell Maryland, Kevin Smith, and Darren Woodson.

Emmitt Smith is one of the greatest, if not the best running back in NFL history. He is the all-time leading rusher with 18,355 yards. His 175 total touchdowns rank him second all-time behind Jerry Rice (207.)

That was the worst trade in history. Vikings GM Mike Lynn said, “if we don’t win the Super Bowl, it’s a bad trade.” Vikings brass didn’t mention the conditional picks to the fans in Minnesota when announcing the trade. That news came out much later, and then Lynn made another agreement with the Cowboys where they could keep the traded players and still have many of the conditional picks. Somehow Lynn then gets named commissioner of the World League of American Football. He resigns in less than a year. Meanwhile, the 1990 Vikings went 6-10 and finished DFL in their division. The only take away Viking fans got out of that trade was listening to Herschel refer to himself in the third person.

ESPN later joked that free agency took away the greatest shortcut to building a dynasty, fleecing the Vikings.
9/29/2022 7:57 PM
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Is it? RealClearPolitics projects Walker to win his election over Warnock. It's very close...and he had good seasons in Minnesota and Philly before his career wound down. It's not his fault Minny made an awful trade...
9/30/2022 12:21 AM (edited)
Posted by chargingryno on 9/11/2022 10:42:00 AM (view original):
Personally I would draft Maddux because of the era. If this was in the 60's or 70's, I'd take Bonds. But long term, consistently good/great pitching is harder to find in this era than a corner OF bat.
Either pick would be great though, and in a 20 team league for this era, I'd probably actually take Bonds because pitching is going to be plentiful and having the best hitter in the era can do some work
I think this is key. The 90s see an explosion of offense that will make Maddux way more valuable. You can find hitters for various seasons that match or exceed Bonds production (Thomas, Griffey, ARod, Bagwell, Walker, etc.). The dropoff from Maddux to most other starters in that decade is bigger, IMO.
9/30/2022 10:22 AM
Posted by DoctorKz on 9/30/2022 12:21:00 AM (view original):
Is it? RealClearPolitics projects Walker to win his election over Warnock. It's very close...and he had good seasons in Minnesota and Philly before his career wound down. It's not his fault Minny made an awful trade...
It could be a reference to his bobsledding career, which is always downhill.

Side note, I got to meet one of the pushers of the 2010 gold medal bobsled team, Steve Warner, this summer in Eugene at the track and field world championships. Heck of a nice guy. Looks like he could still compete in the bob and the decathlon.
10/3/2022 1:06 PM
It doesn’t look like Herschel’s som will be voting for him. The campaign momentum seems to have been tackled at the line of scrimmage.
10/9/2022 11:53 AM
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