Super Franchise- SD and Det franchises Topic

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This is essentially a franchise league where you bring back franchise studs to join with your team every 10 years. The rules are below. We started in 1981 and we are preparing for 2009. The unique rules start with the Future players section that explains when and how we add franchise players (the next is in one season 2010, so a chance to make a nice addition for each franchise). SD added Randy Jones and he is out of useful seasons. Detroit has 88 Jack Morris with several good seasons left. St Louis has 1980 Ted Simmons and 1992 Wade Boggs (via trade). And all three have some great options for 2010. All teams are available as a result of longtime owners dropping WIS due to personal issues/health. Send a sitemail and note below if you are interested.

The SD franchise: The current core group includes Derrek Lee, Carl Crawford, Carlos Lee, Magglio Ordonez, Justin Upton, Buehrle, Morton, and Peavy. Some useable rookie season coming up, but no superstars. I am running the team this season and they are 58-70 and will have a relatively early pick. In 2010, SD will have the option of adding another franchise player, likely Tony Gwynn.

The Oak franchise: The current core group includes Carlos Pena, Miguel Tejada, Cuddyer, Nelson Cruz, Michael Bourn, 78 Vida Blue, Hudson, Harang, and Gio Gonzalez. Some useable rookie seasons coming up such as Josh Donaldson. They are 58-70, as such they will pick early in the draft. In 2010, Oak will have great options for a franchise player such as Rickey Henderson, Mark McGwire or Jose Canseco among others.

The Det franchise: The current core group includes Matt Holliday, Mark Reynolds, BJ Upton, Verlander, 88 Jack Morris, Porcello, Ubadlo Jiminez. Some useable rookie seasons coming up such as Austin Jackson. They are 71-58 so they will have a relatively late pick. In 2010, Det will have some great options for a Franchise player, notably Whitaker or Trammell.

The St Louis franchise: The current core group includes Albert Pujols, 80 Ted Simmons, 92 Boggs, Yadier Molina, JD Drew, Danny Haren, Adam Wainwright, Roy Oswalt, and Javier Vazquez. Some useable rookie seasons coming up such as Austin Jackson. They will pick 11th in 2009. In 2010, St Louis will have some great options for a Franchise player, notably Ozzie Smith or Willie McGee.


Shortened RULES
  • Rights to rookies: The keeper rights to rookie players belong to the team which he first has WIS eligibility. For example, Charlie Hayes is a rookie in WIS in 1989 and shows up under both Philadelphia and San Francisco. However, his first WIS eligibility season was with Philadelphia as his SF season was a combined season (he only had 5 at bats with SF then was was traded to Philadelphia). Addendum: If a player first appears in the database only as a result of a combined season (no WIS qualifying season for either team), that player will be eligible to be drafted and cannot be claimed by either team. If you do not keep a rookie, then that player is available to be drafted by any team.
  • Draft order: Draft order will be established at game 150 and will go from lowest to highest wins.
  • Franchise players: These player progress one year at a time. Franchise players will disappear when you reach their rookie season. Example-Chipper Jones will run into his rookie year in 1995 and the owner will lose the Chipper franchise twist and restart him in 1995 (no clones rule).
  • Future Franchise players:
    Before the 2010 season, you will be able to go back and select 1 player from your teams roster from 1987-1996. Rules for that selection are:
  1. The player chosen must have been a rookie with your franchise (first WIS eligible season for the franchise gets the rights, just like the rookie rules)
  2. You may start player in his 1st, 2nd or 3rd season (in the WIS database), and he will progress 1 season at a time.
  3. The chosen player cannot make a clone or possibly make a clone (say if on IR in 2000). If the player still has eligible seasons, then you must have control of that player to restart him. For example, Cal Ripken still has a season in 2000, but if you were the owner of Baltimore and you still had him on your roster in 1999, you could "cut" him and restart his career since he was on the Orioles between 77-86. The 2000 Ripken would not be available to be drafted.You would only be able to have him on your roster as either the 2000 version or the franchise version.
  4. If your player reaches his rookie season, you must replace him with his rookie season.
  5. If you trade your franchise player, His rookie rights go with him!
Before the 2020 Season, you will be able to go back and select 1 player from your teams roster from 1997-2006. Same rules apply as above.
  • Clones: No clones are permitted other than those that are grandfathered in as of 1992.
  • Stadiums: Stadiums are the stadium of your franchise. When the stadium changes for your franchise (Indians go to Jacobs Field in 94), the team may change to the new stadium. Once you change, you must stay in that stadium. You cannot flip back and forth.
The Basics

No WW
DH For all teams
4 AAA players will be drafted and may be used and may also be keepers in future seasons. WIS generated AAA are not permitted to be used.
Full or partial player seasons may be used.

The franchises we draft rookies from are:
Arizona Diamondbacks
Baltimore Orioles
Chicago Cubs
Chicago White Sox
Philadelphia Phillies
San Francisco Giants
Tampa Rays
Texas Rangers
Colorado Rockies
Florida Marlins
12/31/2024 7:08 PM (edited)
SD Roster

You pick who to keep/cut. I've listed 24 below, but you can cut more. Salary of $79mm as constructed. Decent pitching, but need to pick up a few innings.

C Rod Barajas, Miguel Olivo, Nick Hundley
1b Derrek Lee
2b Luis Castillo
3b Kevin Kouzmanoff, Juan Uribe
SS Evereth Cabrera
OF Carl Crawford, Carlos Lee, Magglio Ordonez, Aaron Rowand, Justin Upton, Chase Headley
DH-

P Mark Buehrle
P Jake Peavy
P Josh Johnson
P Mat Latos
P Kevin Millwood
P Luke Gregerson
P Ryan Madson
P Kyle Kendrick
P John Lannan
P Charlie Morton
12/22/2024 11:37 AM (edited)
Oak Roster

You pick who to keep/cut. I've listed 24 keepers, but you can cut more. Salary as constructed is a little more than $80mm with plenty of innings. Will need some 3b and 2b at bats. But a great chance to pick up a young Rickey Henderson next season.

C Curt Suzuki, Ramon Hernandez, Jarrod Saltalamacchia
1b Carlos Pena
2b Mark Ellis
3b
SS Miguel Tejada, Cliff Pennington
OF Nick Swisher, Michael Bourn, Michael Cuddyer, Angel Pagan, Nelson Cruz, Carlos Gonzalez
DH-

P Vida Blue (1978)
P Aaron Harang
P Joe Blanton
P Tim Hudson
P Jon Garland
P Dallas Braden
P Ryan Dempster
P Huston Street
P Gio Gonzalez
P Trevor Cahill
P Andrew Bailey

12/29/2024 1:07 PM (edited)
Detroit roster

You pick who to keep/cut. I've listed 25 keepers, but you can cut to make room for draft picks. Salary as constructed is approximately $80mm. Pretty balanced with a young Verlander, a solid Jack Morris and Trammell or Whitaker to add next season.

C Ryan Doumit, Alex Avila, John Buck
1b Chris Davis
2b Omar Infante, Dan Uggla
3b Mark Reynolds, Mark Derosa
SS Yuniesky Betancourt, Jed Lowrie
OF Jason Bay, BJ Upton, Matt Holliday, Carlos Quentin
DH-

P Justin Verlander
P Jack Morris (1988)
P AJ Burnett
P Jair Jurrjens
P Ubaldo Jimenez
P John Maine
P Andrew Miller
P Chris Perez
P Matt Albers
P Scott Downs
P Rick Porcello
1/11/2025 5:16 PM (edited)
I will take Oakland
12/28/2024 9:08 AM
Oakland is off the board. SD and Det still available.
12/28/2024 9:18 AM
St Louis roster

You pick who to keep/cut. I've listed 28 total keepers, but you will need to cut to at least 25 or 24 if you want to get access to your first round pick. Salary is over $100mm as listed. This team is pretty darn loaded and can add Ozzie Smith next season.

C: 1980 Ted Simmons. Yadier Molina
1b: Albert Pujols
2b: Placido Polanco, Skip Schumaker
3b: 1992 Wade Boggs
SS: Edgar Renteria, Brendan Ryan
OF: Kosuke Fukudome, J.D. Drew, Colby Rasmus
DH: Jack Cust

P Danny Haren, Roy Oswalt, Javier Vazquez, Edinson Volquez, Oliver Perez, Jonathan Sanchez, Adam Wainwright, Jason Motte, Scott Feldman, Anibal Sanchez, Justin Masterson, Chris Volstad, Kevin Correia, Jason Hammel, Jason Grilli, Sean Burnett

You would need to cut some pitchers, for sure. But there are options.
12/31/2024 7:23 PM
Some great options. In particular, St. Louis is loaded.
1/2/2025 12:22 PM
Getting ready to get started soon. Grab an in his prime Pujols or an early Verlander. St Louis is ready and loaded for this season now, with a loaded offense and stud pitching for 2009 (Haren and Vazquez are both great this season).
1/11/2025 9:01 AM
I'll take St. Louis if still available
1/12/2025 11:53 AM
St Louis off the table. Det and SD available.
1/13/2025 6:49 AM
Finishing up the draft. SD added a nice piece with Derek Holland while Detroit added Tyler Clippard as a really nice addition to the bullpen. Don’t forget, next season SD will be able to add a young Tony Gwynn while Detroit will get to add either a young Trammell or Whitaker. Of course, you would get to choose your own options, but those stand out to me.
1/17/2025 11:32 AM
Finishing up and getting ready to start the season. Jump in now.
1/22/2025 12:01 PM
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