Overview:
I had two of the top 3 picks, but there were not a lot of teams jumping out as obvious picks. I think Bill_James47 made the correct pick with 1997 SEA as the top choice. I decided early on in my research that Lg1AL (Angels, Rangers, Royals, Brewers) would be the last pick I made as there was both a dearth of good options and very little separating the top choices.
Among the teams I considered: 2005 HOU, 2005 and 2009 NYM, 2021 WSN, 2011-12 COL, 2015 FLA, 2000-03 ARI, 1994 and 1998 SEA, 1992 TOR.
The NL side of Lg1 had very good options. 2005 HOU rated highly, though I was a bit gun shy after my top choice last round of 2004 HOU was pretty mediocre. Still, you get a Clemens-led staff and the Bagwell/Berkman/Biggio killer Bs (no Beltran this time, however). A few other HOUs (2002, 1998, 2006) ranked highly as well. There were two Mets teams sandwiched around probably the best mini-era from Round 3--2005 and 2009. Last round, my 2006 NYM team won 104 games and got me the #2 pick. Of course, the 2008 team did even better and won 105 and got Bill_James47 the #1 pick. schwarze's 2007 team only won 81 games but had a .544 Exp%. 2005 gets Pedro and Piazza while 2009 gets Johan, an elite bullpen, and bigger bats (Sheffield, Delgado, Daniel Murphy). Lastly, there was the 2021 Nationals, heavy on pitching but with a still-decent offense.
Of the newer expansion teams, I was almost solely focused on SEA for the AL side, though I did briefly look at 1992 TOR. While 1997 was the best combination, I considered both 1998 (better offense) and 1994 (better pitching). Unsurprisingly, the Griffey/A-Rod/Unit/Edgar era Mariners grade out among the best. For the NL, you have the hitting-dominant Rockies, the pitching-dominant D-Backs and the more balanced (but overall weaker) Marlins.
As I sorted through the options, I couldn't really decide between the 2005 Astros, who rated out as the best team overall, or the 2005/09 Mets, who were just slightly behind in my ratings but had comp teams that performed much better in Round 3. I knew I'd have the 1st or 2nd pick in Lg1 if I waited, meaning only 2 teams maximum could be taken from Lg1 between my Top 4 picks and that pick (barracuda's #4 overall pick and potentially pedro picking ahead of me in the Lg1 draft), so I decided to wait. That led me to my two picks...
1994 Seattle Mariners
Top8 Pick #2
Lg2 Pick #2
AL Pick #2
SEA Pick #2
1997 gets a big bump from Dennis Martinez and Derek Lowe in the rotation, which neither 94 nor 98 get. Just comparing 94 and 98, which was my decision came down to the better 98 offense (Carlos Guillen, Rick Wilkins and Glenallen Hill) against the better 94 pitching (Gossage, Jeff Nelson, Thigpen and Bosio). I decided to go with the pitching, as I though Guillen and Hill were mostly superfluous and 94 does get Tino Martinez to play 1B which slots in nicely alongside A-Rod/Griffey/Edgar.
Griffey x2, A-Rod x2, and Edgar x2 were no-brainers. I went with 1992 Edgar to play 3B and with no 2B of any note, I'll play 1996 A-Rod there. That leaves 1B, C, and RF as my last 3 spots. Tino Martinez doesn't quite reach the level of the star trio but he's got a solid 1997 season to plug in at 1B, adding a 3rd lefty bat to go with Griffey. In RF, I rostered both 1994 Jay Buhner and 1996 Reggie Jefferson. Ideally, Jefferson would be a DH with his C-/D- OF ratings but with Mr. DH himself already in tow, the switch-hitting Jefferson will have to play RF vs righties, platooning with Buhner who will also act as his defensive replacement. Catcher is easily the sore spot on this team, but 1996 Dan Wilson has an A+ arm and a little bit of pop, and I also rostered 1990 Mackey Sasser's lefty bat to maybe hit against some righties. For the last spot, I rostered 1991 Luis Sojo solely for his glove--he's B/B+ at 2B (where I have nobody else rated) and C/C at 3B (where 92 Edgar has only 592 PA).
The pitching is pretty good, led of course by the Big Unit. But the bullpen is also better than expected thanks to the presence of both Gossage and Thigpen, who each got cloned. Same goes for Jeff Nelson, who is on many of the Mariners teams in this era. I rounded out the bullpen with solid relief seasons from both Bill Risley and Bobby Ayala. That gave me 1127 innings all with ERC# under 2.20. I still needed at least 300 innings, give or take, so enter Chris Bosio x2. He brings 400 innings with ERC# coming in the 2.90s. I had an extra spot so I also rostered Greg Hibbard's 211 innings (3.10 ERC#) to get another lefty.
I end up avoiding the rest of the Mariners teams, including Bill_James47's 1997 team, finding myself in the AL East with three Blue Jays squads. thejuice6's 1992 team is here, which is another one I considered. I feel pretty good about this team, especially avoiding 1997, so I'll predict 90 wins and a division title, though the early 90s TOR teams could easily win it.
2011 Colorado Rockies
Top8 Pick #3
Lg2 Pick #3
NL Pick #1
COL Pick #1
For my other pick, I went to the NL side of Lg2. I ruled out 2015 FLA first. You do get Jose Fernandez, but I'm less of a fan of Haren and Latos and the 'pen is just okay. Offensively, getting a real catcher in Realmuto is nice and the OF/1B/DH positions can be manned by a combination of Ichiro, Yelich, Ozuna, and Stanton. This team was the most balanced I looked at but didn't have enough to stack up. I figured the early 2000s D-Backs would be popular. Who wouldn't want Johnson and Schilling atop their rotation?! But I would say both the bullpens and the offenses leave a little something to be desired. Certainly a Luis Gonzalez/Matt Williams/Jay Bell base is solid, but it's not elite, and the depth is just okay. The bullpen has some decent options but very few in any elite studs depending on the exact year you pick in this era.
That all led me to (shockingly, I know) settle on a COL team with their great offenses. The 2010-13 era in particular rated highly, and I eventually focused specifically on 2011 and 2012. Both of these teams get Helton and Giambi, along with Tulo, Blackmon, and CarGo. The major differences are offense vs pitching. 2012 gets DJ LeMahieu, who fits perfectly into the 2B/3B gap. That lineup of Helton x2, Giambi x2, Tulo, LeMahieu x2, Blackmon/CarGo, and catcher is amazing. 2011 counters with the best (for this league) pitching in COL history thanks to the presence of both Kevin Millwood and Ubaldo Jimenez. (Note that this still ranks as just the 20th-best in all of the Lg2 NL teams.)
I decided to go with the better pitching version of 2011. There's still plenty of pop here and I'll start Helton x2, Giambi x2, Tulo, Blackmon/CarGo. Mark Ellis is no LeMahieu at 2B, but he's got a couple nice seasons, I went with his better hitting 2005 season (.383 OBP#, A-/B-, 486 PA) over his slick fielding 2007 season. Catcher is...fine...with Iannetta and Wilin Rosario. I went back and forth on the last roster spot, but I did end up rostering Ty Wiggington to have a true 3B. However, I may play my Tulo clone here sometimes or even one of my boppers out of position. This should be one of the best offenses in the league, though likely behind 2012.
The pitching is...actually not so bad for a COL team! Millwood has a legitimate ace season with 228 IP and 2.04 ERC# and Ubaldo Jimenez's best season is reasonable (222 IP, 2.54 ERC#). They each have a 2nd season that's not quite as good but still with ERC# under 3 and over 200 IP. The bullpen has some low-inning but stud-performance seasons with Huston Street and Rafael Betancourt each providing two seasons each under 2 ERC#--222 innings and 1.36 ERC# combined in those four years. Drew Pomeranz adds both an elite relief season (50 IP, 1.62 ERC#) and a strong long relief one (102 IP, 2.12). I rounded out the staff with some decent relief seasons from Nicasio, Romero, and Belisle.
I ended up in the division with the other similar Rockies teams that were drafted (2012 and 2013) as well as those 2015 Marlins. Lots of runs will be scored! My staff actually has decent HR numbers, but my hitters are a little more on the doubles power, so we went with Sportsman's Park which is +3 for doubles and 0/+1 for HR, benefitting my lefties a bit more. As I mentioned, I had 2012 ranked even slightly above my 2011 pick, so that was a great selection late in the draft by 3dayrotation, will be interesting to see how we fare against each other. And I had both 2013 COL and 2015 FLA high as well, as I mentioned. Given the tough division, I'll say 85 wins.
2005 New York Mets
Lg1 Pick #3
NL Pick #3
NYM Pick #1
I ended up with the 2nd pick in League 1 following the Top 4 draft (so 3rd overall). I had 3 teams I was considering--2005 HOU, 2005, NYM, and 2009 NYM--and I was secretly hoping others would make my choice easier. But they did not. barracuda3 took a different Astros team, 1998, to get Randy Johnson and then pedrocerrano took the 2021 Nationals. Those were my 4th and 6th rated teams, but didn't make my decision any easier.
I am shocked that 2005 HOU went completely undrafted. The pitching of Clemens/Oswalt/Pettitte with Lidge and others in relief is pretty good. And while the offense has two weak spots at SS and C, the other 7 positions are awesome--a combination of Bagwell, Biggio, Berkman, Ensberg. Can even use a Biggio clone at catcher or SS (OOP). However, at the juncture of my pick, I decided to eliminate 2005 HOU since they struggled for me last round and the 2006 Mets were so good for me (and 2008 was great as well).
Between the 2005 and 2009 NYM, the biggest differences are that 2005 gets Pedro and Piazza while 2009 gets Johan Santana, Billy Wagner and more offensive options with Daniel Murphy, Delgado, and Sheffield. (Side note: There are not very many duplicates between these two teams. I believe there were ZERO pitchers that were on staff for both 2005 and 2009. In fact, it's easier to just list the duplicate players of note--David Wright, Beltran, and Reyes.) While I loved the depth of 2009, both the lineup and the bullpen, there was quite a bit of waste--there's just not enough spots for Delgado, Sheffield, Beltran, Wright, Murphy, etc. and their possible clones. Plus, while 2009 certainly would have some upgraded positions--notably 1B, 2B, and RF--Piazza nullifies that by providing a huge upgrade at catcher and offsets any advantage at DH. Similarly, as good as Johan is, Pedro is a huge upgrade. So I went with 2005 to get the studs and hope that I could fill in the gaps around them.
My offense will be a bit piecemeal, but I like the balance. I cloned 4 players in Piazza, Beltran, Wright, and Floyd. Those 8 will occupy 7 lineup spots each game--everywhere but the double-play combination of Reyes and Offerman/Matsui. I do also have 112 PA of Mike Jacobs to play some 1B but mostly will be employing a Wright/Floyd out-of-position platoon there. Offerman is clearly the weakest link here but he gives me 700+ PA with a strong OBP and can soak up a lot of at-bats to help--I only have one other player (07 Wright) with more than 635 PA, so everyone else will likely need a little rest here and there. The biggest changes from 2006 Mets are that I get Piazza but drop Delgado (C/1B/DH goes from Delgado x2 + LoDuca to Piazza x2 + Wright/Floyd) and some neutral swaps--Cliff Floyd in for Shawn Green and Offerman in for Julio Franco.
The pitching staff is pretty similar to what I trotted out with 2006 with 7 pitchers returning--Pedro x2, Glavine x2, Roberto Hernandez x2 and Heath Bell. Billy Wagner is the biggest casualty, along with Oliver Perez x2, Chad Bradford and Guillermo Mota. They'll be replaced by a second Heath Bell, Juan Padilla, Mike DeJean, Shingo Takatsu, and Aaron Heilman x2. Definitely a worse staff than 2006 with Wagner out but that's to be expected. This should be a top pitching staff in Round 4, I'd hope.
With Delgado's power, I put the team in Robison Field last go round but this time I went with Bank One Ballpark. Hopefully Reyes, Beltran, and company can leg out some triples. We did unfortunately end up in likely the toughest division with both 2009 NYM and 2021 WSN both in it. A division title may be hard to come by, but would hope this team would at least comfortably advance. 92 wins.
1992 Texas Rangers
Lg1 Pick #6
AL Pick #2
TEX Pick #1
This league will be the toughest to predict. My initial rating system for teams shows very little difference at the top and a lot of depth. Three of the top 4 teams weren't taken, and just 6 of the top 25 overall. Lots of disagreement at the top.
I looked at a few Angels teams, including 2013 after I had success with 2012 ANA last round. You get Trout and Pujols but there's no Greinke this time around and that really hurts the pitching. Ultimately, I settled pretty quickly on 1992 TEX as the comparisons last round were solid (both 89 and 93 won their divisions, though 91 flamed out), the team seemed fun and different for me (last round 6 of my 8 teams were from 2004 or later), and it was just hard to find a team that might be materially better.
I'll start with the pitching staff this time which is, obviously, Nolan Ryan x2 and Kevin Brown x2. There are a few decent relief seasons sprinkled in from Todd Burns, Jeff Russell, and Lance McCullers but they run out pretty quickly. I usually roster 13 pitchers, but I only needed 10 here. I did end up rostering an 11th--Jeff M. Robinson--so I can decide between him and Kenny Rogers for my lowest-leverage innings. This will be a bit of a change for me with four stud starter seasons, we'll see how it goes!
The lineup is led by Ivan Rodriguez, Palmeiro, Juan Gonzalez, and Jose Canseco. It's always nice to have Pudge behind the plate and I'll have a team with him and one with Piazza this round, which is nice. Juan Gone, Canseco, and Palmeiro are just the epitome of the 90s steroids era and they'll combine to form most of the heart of the order. Dickie Thon is a nice SS and I'll get a reunion with 2B 1991 Julio Franco (who I had on my 2006 Mets last round). 3B was the trickiest spot, but I rostered a hodgepodge of options from partial-season studs (1995 Dean Palmer) to mediocre options with 3B ratings (97 Jeff Frye and 87 Geno Petralli) to out-of-position options (probably Pudge and/or Palmeiro most likely). Palmeiro is our only real lefty--Petralli has 232 PA as well.
The division has two other Rangers teams in it, including another Ryan/Brown team in 1990. I put the team in Bennett Park for some doubles and home runs, but nothing too crazy. I don't know what to think about this team and how it will stack up--could see them winning or losing 90 but let's go right down the middle with an 81-81 prediction.
5/14/2025 3:11 PM (edited)