Effects of conference & program prestige Topic

I want to tap the depth of knowledge of those who have been there/done that.

Several questions.... is there a "ratio" or relationship between one's own conference's prestige and that of of a conference in a higher division, in regards to moving from (for example) D2 to D1? Meaning, if my D2 conference's prestige is C+, does that have a significant impact on what prestige level of conference I could move to in D1?

Another question #2 parallels the first question..... how would my D2 team/program's prestige relate to D1, in regards to moving up to that division?

I am thinking of my D2 team (Metropolitan State). My prestige should move to a "B" by the end of the current season, and the prestige for our conference may increase to B- . I am hoping for success next season, with an associated prestige move for my school up to B+/A-.

Obviously, I am trying to project what sort of D1 program and from what level of conference I could expect to move up to after this season, or the next one.

Thanks for any help/insight!

10/15/2009 12:10 AM
The prestige of your DII conference plays absolutely no role whatsoever in determining what sort of DII job you can get. Also, in DII and DIII, conference prestige has absolutely no impact on team prestige.

Barring a deep NT run, it is very unlikely that you will be qualified for any DI jobs after this season. If you can go to back-to-back NT's that will probably open you up to some low level (D/D-) jobs after next season.

Also, it's not your team's prestige that determines what jobs you're qualified for, it's your resume. Now, prestige is certainly impacted by what's on your resume. But I'll give you an example of why it's resume and not prestige that matters:

We have equal DIII careers, and then I take over an A+ prestige DII program, you take over a D-. I make the NT 2 of the next four seasons, one PIT and one .500 season. You make 3 NT's and a .500 season. Our NT success is the same.

My prestige would be higher than yours by virtue of the fact that I inherited a program with much higher prestige. But you would have the better resume and the edge over me if we both applied for the same job.

Hope that clears things up for you.
10/15/2009 12:20 AM
Thanks Dalter. I'm hoping to make it back-to-back NT appearances, figured I would qualify for a low level D1 post then, just interested in any factors that may effect what level of school I could look at going to.
10/15/2009 10:01 AM
some good advice i've read on here is to avoid a D1 D- prestige job at all costs. The hurdles in front of you from such a low-level job are tremendous and it can be really tough to move up from there.
10/18/2009 1:40 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By jdno on 10/18/2009some good advice i've read on here is to avoid a D1 D- prestige job at all costs. The hurdles in front of you from such a low-level job are tremendous and it can be really tough to move up from there
I don't think this hurts you for the long run but you have to be willing to put in the time. D- schools are horribly hard to recruit at but if you are willing to wait 3 years to see your fruit bear or you take over a D- team with SR talent that will help. You just want to make sure you only spend 1 year @ D-. Some D- schools are not far off from D schools and even a top 225 RPI season can get you out of that hell. Once you get to D recruiting is much easier and I think at D+ you won't get the door slammed in your face by the better recruits, except maybe the 5 star freshman.

Now if you want to avoid all black marks on your record (in terms of not having any losing or RPI hell seasons) then I would agree to avoid D- schools.
10/19/2009 1:21 AM
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