With two low work ethic threads going I thought I'd share my current experiences with Phillip Hurst. He's not a beast but I've been pretty pleased.

I couldn't help myself and gambled on the 7 WE when I discovered he knew my offense and defense. He came to campus with high potential in athleticism, rebounding, defense, low post, shot blocking and stamina. And C-/C for IQ.

I redshirted him to try and get the most out of him. And now one practice away from ending his third season he just hit A- in defensive IQ.

Since coming to campus I've seen the following "improvements":

Athleticism: +10
Speed: +6
Rebounding: +9
Defense: +12
Shot Blocking: +12
Low Post: + 9
Perimeter: -5
Ball Handling: 0 (but been at 1 the entire time with no minutes)
Passing: -19
Work Ethic: +4
Stamina: +10
Flex: C- to B+
Man: C to A-

I think it's very unlikely that this guy is going to end up being a stud. And even if he did, the very slow pace of stamina improvement prevents him from getting the minutes you'd want from a stud. But at the same time I think he's going to be a better starter than a good number of the other D2 teams out there.

Figured it wouldn't hurt to share.

kh, when I access Hurst's ratings, they are different than what you have listed. I must be reading your post wrong. Nice player.

Quote: Originally posted by jskenner on 12/14/2009kh, when I access Hurst's ratings, they are different than what you have listed. I must be reading your post wrong. Nice player.

In his post, he is referring to improvement since he came to the school.
The improvement ratings on the link are improvements this season alone.

I had a player, ISaac YOung, who started with something like a thirteen WE but actually showed some modest improvement and his good abilities were spaced well enough that he was a pretty good player off the bench as a super sub most of his career - enough, at least, to get to #6 in Points, #3 in Reb, #3 in blocks,
#3 in steals, #8 in fg% on my records list. SO he wasn't a washout.