Does anyone have a way of determining how to set pitch counts based on the pitcher's durability and stamina, such as a pitcher with a durability of 10 and stamina of 82?

Show recs will give you a basic idea usually. It's at least a starting point.

Yes but it seems they set pitches pretty high, especially for long relief. Just wondering if someone had come up with a formula in helping set pitch counts so that if you're trading for a pitcher you can have a good idea as well.

It depends on role. If the pitcher is a starter in a five man rotation (meaning he has at least 60 STA and at least 20 DUR), then I will put their PC at 20 pitches above the STA rating. In this case, 80 pitches.

A 10 DUR/82 STA cannot start in a 5 or 6 man rotation. He can be used in a tandem rotation set-up and in relief. I'd set him to 40-60 pitches, depending on his other ratings and his role.

If the pitcher is being used as an RP, I set their MPC to 5 under their STA, so a 50 STA is set to 45, a 30 is set to 25, etc. This means I do not use players with sub 15 STA, unless they have 95+ DUR and sometimes, not even then.

Others will have different strategies that might be more efficient or intelligent.

Thanks for the input soxfan

Quote: Originally Posted By tk21775 on 12/17/2009Yes but it seems they set pitches pretty high, especially for long relief. Just wondering if someone had come up with a formula in helping set pitch counts so that if you're trading for a pitcher you can have a good idea as well

Yes. The recs seems pretty good for SP and short relief, but they treat LR as if they'll always be coming in in the 3rd and expected to go 5 innings. You should start with the recs for all pitches, and then manually adjust the LRs downwards. Then tinker from there.

What about your setup pitchers? It seems their durability and stamina very greatly. You can have a 30 stamina with 70 durability and a 30 stamina with 30 durability. When you hit recommend, the pitch counts are very similiar.

the 30 ST 70 DU guy should be almost 2x the count of a 30/30 if they're expected to pitch as often as the other. If the 30/30 is a setup B then you can probably get away with higher pitch count as you hopefully won't be using those guys as often.

Role is the most important determinant. Other factors to consider: what are the sta/dur combos of other pitchers on your staff? Do your starting pitchers typically go 7 innings most of the time or do you have a couple "short starters?"

If other starters and/or relievers on your roster can be counted on to routinely eat up quality innings then you can play it safe with a 10/82 pitcher and give him a max PC of, say, 40. If he's going to need to eat innings often because other pitchers are not available the you bump it up to somewhere between 60-80.

Quote: Originally Posted By gjello10 on 12/17/2009

Quote: Originally Posted By tk21775 on 12/17/2009
Yes but it seems they set pitches pretty high, especially for long relief. Just wondering if someone had come up with a formula in helping set pitch counts so that if you're trading for a pitcher you can have a good idea as well.

Yes. The recs seems pretty good for SP and short relief, but they treat LR as if they'll always be coming in in the 3rd and expected to go 5 innings. You should start with the recs for all pitches, and then manually adjust the LRs downwards. Then tinker from there

Why? If he's just a bridge to your short guys, then most of the time he won't be reaching his MPC. But if you need him to go deep (say, in an extra inning game), you don't want him pulled prematurely as that's just going to burn the rest of your bullpen and hinder you for your next game.

New to HBD. My question is: does the stamina rating correlate directly to number of pitches or is it a relative rating that can be used for comparison?

relative.