Quote: Originally Posted By lebronfeldt on 1/01/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By dalter on 1/01/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By lebronfeldt on 1/01/2010

I wasn't happy when I lost a 5 star recruit to a C+ prestige when I was an A prestige. I promised 20 minutes and a starting spot. Spent over 59k on him and I was coming off a national championship loss.

It was pretty much pointless getting to the title game and not be able to get a recruiting edge over a C+ school.

I'm guessing that you out something really significant, that you were at a major distance disadvantage.

290 miles disadvantag

Bingo.

I'm guessing the 290 was something along the lines of 100 for him and 390 for you. And if that's the case, it's an enormous difference. You can't look at amount spent, you have to look at recruiting effort (# of CV, HV, etc.) And the amount of effort that $59K buys you from that distance can definitely be trumped at the much closer, more cost effective distance.

heh, just stumbled across this thread. my alias is the coach in question, and i did something i literally almost never do with virginia by going all out for a recruit at the expense of my other spots. I did this with my 3 spots for a couple reasons:

1)based on who I return I really didnt need a single player for my current rotation
2) my general apathy toward HD has me in jeopardy there, why not shoot for the moon on a player?
3) the player was basically as close to me as to maryland, maryland appeared to be in several other battles, and even if i didnt fill the spots it gives me a ton of spots and money for next year when i can really be a force in recruiting surrounded by these ACC giants (as well as Georgetown and others)

colorblind's portrayal that this is something i normally do is flat-out wrong and ill-informed.

i spent around 60K and offered 15 minutes (no start), dont know how much he offered exactly but i understand that his higher prestige plus a starting spot was enough to counteract my greater dollar total.

recruiting is about risk and reward, i normally play it very very safe with lots of money over, this time i took the risk. i dont understand the A+ school getting all pissy about how the system works just because they had a tough battle. the system should allow for all types of strategies and it does, in fact it worked like it should here, and i lost as i probably should have, even despite having the lead for quite a while. lesser schools get top recruits in real life all the time due to extreme recruiting attention and focus.

HD already hugely favors the elite, no reason for the rich to get richer with an engine change to recruiting.

PS - i signed a 680 rated junior for about $300 after losing this battle

Vandy, I completely agree. He may have lost some of the other battles to land this kid. He's WHINING.

VD, I agree with everything you said except for "HD already hugely favors the elite". In truth, it's much, much easier to both be successful and sign top recruits as a non-elite and/or non-BCS in HD than in real life. It's not even close.

And I'm not at all saying they should change that. But it is the reality.

Colorblind you're a great guy but this post reminds me of the guy at the poker game who keeps losing and ******** that it's because the other guys play so stupid you can't beat them.

The old "HOW DID HE CALL BEFORE THE FLOP WITH 7-9 OFFSUIT!"

Of course usually that guy has ignored a lot of pertinent facts that led to him being beat by a 7-9. Like he didn't raise before the flop with aces and the 7-9 was the blind, or he sandbagged the flop, or whatever, but usually, much like here he is ignoring the realy crux of the matter.

It's a game and it isn't finite, that's what makes it cool. You put a bunch of chips into a guy and made yourself vulenerable, that's the lesson. I'm A or above at a handful of schools and I can tell you (especially at d1) you still gotta guard yer ***.

Quote: Originally Posted By daveymac on 1/02/2010
Colorblind you're a great guy but this post reminds me of the guy at the poker game who keeps losing and ******** that it's because the other guys play so stupid you can't beat them.

The old "HOW DID HE CALL BEFORE THE FLOP WITH 7-9 OFFSUIT!"

Of course usually that guy has ignored a lot of pertinent facts that led to him being beat by a 7-9. Like he didn't raise before the flop with aces and the 7-9 was the blind, or he sandbagged the flop, or whatever, but usually, much like here he is ignoring the realy crux of the matter.

It's a game and it isn't finite, that's what makes it cool. You put a bunch of chips into a guy and made yourself vulenerable, that's the lesson. I'm A or above at a handful of schools and I can tell you (especially at d1) you still gotta guard yer ***.

or if the fish keeps calling 7-9 off he'll leave the table with no pants. can do it every once in awhile and hit it big but its not a strategy to get rich with.

Quote: Originally Posted By daveymac on 1/02/2010
Colorblind you're a great guy but this post reminds me of the guy at the poker game who keeps losing and ******** that it's because the other guys play so stupid you can't beat them.

The old "HOW DID HE CALL BEFORE THE FLOP WITH 7-9 OFFSUIT!"

Of course usually that guy has ignored a lot of pertinent facts that led to him being beat by a 7-9. Like he didn't raise before the flop with aces and the 7-9 was the blind, or he sandbagged the flop, or whatever, but usually, much like here he is ignoring the realy crux of the matter.

It's a game and it isn't finite, that's what makes it cool. You put a bunch of chips into a guy and made yourself vulenerable, that's the lesson. I'm A or above at a handful of schools and I can tell you (especially at d1) you still gotta guard yer ***.

Davey, I'm a sucker for a good poker analogy.