do inelig players count toward freshmen Topic

justcamman
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If I had 8 open schollys could i sign 6 freshman and 2 inelig freshmen
1/14/2010 9:13 PM
bigbucks69
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Nope
1/14/2010 9:22 PM
Weena
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You can't do it in DIII because ineligibles can play right away. What I'm not sure about is what would happen if one or both of the ineligibles at DII or DI passed their SAT prior to the season starting.
1/14/2010 9:46 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by Weena on 1/14/2010You can't do it in DIII because ineligibles can play right away. What I'm not sure about is what would happen if one or both of the ineligibles at DII or DI passed their SAT prior to the season starting.
You cant do it at any division because they still count as freshman even if they are ineligible. I think the real question would be what happens if you have an ineligible and then a 6 player class the year after? Do you still get a 5th year senior plus 6 regular seniors?
1/14/2010 10:22 PM
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Yes. He's a 5th year senior, not a senior. When they are freshmen, he is a soph. Differant classes.
1/15/2010 3:27 AM
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So if you recruit a class of ineligibles and a big class of freshman you can have a super class?
1/15/2010 10:57 AM
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I believe it is hard to get multiple nonqualifiers to enroll - not saying impossible - just that I think it gets harder with more than one
1/15/2010 11:06 AM
zhawks
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Quote: Originally Posted By justcamman on 1/14/2010If I had 8 open schollys could i sign 6 freshman and 2 inelig freshme
I do not believe that you can, since they are all freshmen. They will count towards the 5th year class when they are sr/5, but until then it is my understanding that they do count towards their class.
1/15/2010 11:07 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By blackdog3377 on 1/15/2010So if you recruit a class of ineligibles and a big class of freshman you can have a super class
I am with you on this, they do count towards their class. I don't know why everyone seems to think differently.
1/15/2010 11:08 AM
zhawks
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what happens to nonqualifiers - I hope and assume that this will not mean that a nonqualifier will lose the chance to have an SR5 season if there already are 6 SR in that class - I would expect SR and SR5 to be treated as separate categories what happens to redshirts - if I redshirted a guy last season, will that mean that I can bring in only FIVE freshmen, lest I have more than SIX freshmen, including the redshirt freshman??? (fd343ny - Hall of Famer - 3:20 PM)

Non-qualifiers are not impacted by this change - the system views Seniors and 5th year Seniors differently in terms of class makeup.
1/15/2010 11:29 AM
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Superclasses - will you now be restricting which players can be redshirted if it drops them into a class of 6? (mullycj - All*Star - 11:58 AM)

If you have 6 scholarships open and have a redshirt freshman already on your roster, you'll only be able to fill 5 of those scholarships with HS Seniors - the other scholarship could either be open or go to a transfer or JUCO player.
1/15/2010 11:30 AM
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What happens in the remote chance that a Junior qualifies for a Medical Redshirt at a school that has 6 Sophs already? (Weena - Hall of Famer - 12:07 PM)

Medical redshirts are exempt from the class size limitation. Since injuries can't be controlled by coaches not named Chaney, it's difficult to bank on season-ending injuries to build up a superclass.
1/15/2010 11:30 AM
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Is there going to be to stop ineligibles/redshirts from making classes oversized? Also if a team recruits an ineligible will they be more likely to go JuCo and lose a year of NCAA eligibility so the class is uneven... because teams could lose out on good players do to the cap rule (redsoxrootr1 - Pro - 12:00 PM)

If you were to sign an ineligible player in season 10 and he decides to attend your school but sit out a year, he'll still be part of the freshman class so his class could be no larger than 6. When his 5 classmates graduate at the end of season 13, he could come back for season 14 as a 5th year senior but that will not count against the Senior class limit of 6.
1/15/2010 11:33 AM
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All you need to know about class size limits, ineligibles do count against their class size. Nice call blackdogg.



(All previous posts pulled from http://wisjournal.com/devchat/devchat.asp?chatid=67)
1/15/2010 11:33 AM
justcamman
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thanks zhawks...i will be having 7 open schollys and was just curious...thanks brother
1/15/2010 11:54 AM
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