Quote: Originally Posted By tomhighway on 1/27/2010
There's no need to "Tweak up" the Amateur Draft..
Quite true. That was tec's invention, and not a very good one at that. He completely missed the point that the discussion was in the context of an alternative to the dumb cap WIS was going to put in place, and wisely backed off of. You didn't miss the context in which it was mentioned, though, did you? Or did you?
1/27/2010 2:01 PM
All I'm saying is there is no need to change anything.. Either the people don't understand how to properly set draft settings and budgets to have a better shot at getting pretty good players in the draft and feel they have to tank just to get good IFA's or they are just retarded and like blowing 30mil on one player every season.. I say let them be retards.. just don't let them be in your world..

If you see someone purposely dumping the ML season do something about it.. If you see 1 stupid trade to lose a top end ML player for crap so they can ditch either salary or make their team worse then do something about it.. If you let them get away with 4-5 trades and drop 45mil in salary for nothing in return to make their team better then you already screwed up. The commish in each world should be aware of this stuff as well as the other owners.
1/27/2010 2:07 PM
This post could not be converted. To view the original post's thread, click here.
1/29/2010 12:09 AM
1)HBD is open to anyone who can and is willing to pay

2)Everybody is different, and expectations vary wildly. As in life most people fall into the middle although there will always be the extremes. There are many inept owners and GMs in professional sports why wouldn't there be an even higher percentage with HBD? There's no inherent accountability here. I play my way but I don't owe anyone here anything.

3)There's no screening process set up, anyone with a credit card or a paypal account is welcome. I get idiots in my cafe all the time. i don't kick them out if i don't like the way they eat. It's business, customers are good. I'd love to hang a sign saying "No Brains, No Service" but alas...

4)I don't feel any less of a man because someone is paying to suck. My city won't throw a parade for me if i win a WS in either a public world or if I was in one of those self proclaimed "elite" (what a joke) leagues. It's online fantasy baseball, chill out people, nobody cares. And unless you foolishly use your actual name, no one knows who you are or where you live, as evidenced by all the bravado and machismo and aggresion in these and every other internet thread in existence.

5)I haven't come across very many of these "tankers" that get people so riled up. I know they exist but not to the degree that the Chicken Littles cluck about.

6)I suspect many people here who want lots of regulations, tend from the conservative side of the political spectrum and therefore fail to see the irony. Hell you got one guy here saying he doesn't care if real life MLBers take steroids and hit 70+ HRs, but golly-gee imaginary baseball players shouldn't, because that's retarded.

7) I often read people tsk-tsking some world or owner, that they aren't even in with. Often these same people love to proclaim how their world is so much better. Then you read things from the same people (person) saying if it's not in your world why care. Again, irony missed.

8) If you like your team stick with it even if some jack-*** is piling up losses. If you know what you are doing then it doesn't matter in the end. If some guy has gone the cheese-ball route to building a team, and it really bothers you get out. I've never seen a team that has won more than two WS in a row, it's actually very hard to build a hands down guaranteed perennial WS champ.

9) Most of these stacked teams are built on trades. You can acquire many more prospects that way in a single season than by the draft and IFAs. Many of those trades are lop-sided and I would suspect many involve aliases, which I would suggest is HBDs biggest issue. Unfortunately admin is reticent in this regard.


1/29/2010 4:37 AM
Quote: Originally Posted By sarmos78 on 1/29/20101)HBD is open to anyone who can and is willing to pay

2)Everybody is different, and expectations vary wildly. As in life most people fall into the middle although there will always be the extremes. There are many inept owners and GMs in professional sports why wouldn't there be an even higher percentage with HBD? There's no inherent accountability here. I play my way but I don't owe anyone here anything.

3)There's no screening process set up, anyone with a credit card or a paypal account is welcome. I get idiots in my cafe all the time. i don't kick them out if i don't like the way they eat. It's business, customers are good. I'd love to hang a sign saying "No Brains, No Service" but alas...

4)I don't feel any less of a man because someone is paying to suck. My city won't throw a parade for me if i win a WS in either a public world or if I was in one of those self proclaimed "elite" (what a joke) leagues. It's online fantasy baseball, chill out people, nobody cares. And unless you foolishly use your actual name, no one knows who you are or where you live, as evidenced by all the bravado and machismo and aggresion in these and every other internet thread in existence.

5)I haven't come across very many of these "tankers" that get people so riled up. I know they exist but not to the degree that the Chicken Littles cluck about.

6)I suspect many people here who want lots of regulations, tend from the conservative side of the political spectrum and therefore fail to see the irony. Hell you got one guy here saying he doesn't care if real life MLBers take steroids and hit 70+ HRs, but golly-gee imaginary baseball players shouldn't, because that's retarded.

7) I often read people tsk-tsking some world or owner, that they aren't even in with. Often these same people love to proclaim how their world is so much better. Then you read things from the same people (person) saying if it's not in your world why care. Again, irony missed.

8) If you like your team stick with it even if some jack-*** is piling up losses. If you know what you are doing then it doesn't matter in the end. If some guy has gone the cheese-ball route to building a team, and it really bothers you get out. I've never seen a team that has won more than two WS in a row, it's actually very hard to build a hands down guaranteed perennial WS champ.

9) Most of these stacked teams are built on trades. You can acquire many more prospects that way in a single season than by the draft and IFAs. Many of those trades are lop-sided and I would suspect many involve aliases, which I would suggest is HBDs biggest issue. Unfortunately admin is reticent in this regard.




I got this far and began laughing uncontrollably. This is an awful long post for someone who doesn't care. You're funny.
1/29/2010 5:46 AM
I think he has some valid points. Especially that super-juggernauts are built through trading/collusion, more so than the draft/IFA. I'm not so sure about the political (/right) aspect. My perception is that it's ies who are in for more rules and regulations.
1/29/2010 9:11 AM
You must be very short if that went over your head, which it seems everything does.

You are the King, baby.
1/29/2010 9:14 AM
shobob, I stopped reading where he said "nobody cares". I assume he doesn't consider himself to be a nobody. And I'm sure he realizes if you make a 9 point post that undoubtedly took more than a couple of minutes you can't really say "I don't care!"

sarmos, nothing went over my head. You were rattling on about how no one cares except you spent an assload of time thinking and writing about it sometime between 3 and 6 AM.
1/29/2010 9:25 AM
shobob, you know miket stopped reading ... last year in fifth grade when they started writing more than three lines.

sarmos has some interesting observations, the saddest and most significant of which is "... aliases, which I would suggest is HBDs biggest issue. Unfortunately admin is reticent in this regard." Unless and until WIS deals with cheating through alias abuse, all the wailing from the users won't matter one speck. They simply don't respect us enough to run a clean game, and the morons keep pouring money into a dishonest game. Worse yet, it ain't gonna change.
1/29/2010 10:10 AM
Quote: Originally Posted By spit_ballerz on 1/29/2010Hey snake, do you have an alias with 100+ seasons
Does my post just above sound like I would throw that much money down a toilet?
1/29/2010 10:11 AM
Quote: Originally posted by sche0707 on 1/25/2010Actually Ishvara was responsible for this. Although rumor has it Jesus was responsible for the blowjob so you can thank him for that.

You better hope this is true or you might or you just might find yourself a stammering blob of regret come Judgement Day.
1/30/2010 5:38 PM
Quote: Originally posted by sermonauthor on 1/30/2010
Quote: Originally posted by sche0707 on 1/25/2010Actually Ishvara was responsible for this. Although rumor has it Jesus was responsible for the blowjob so you can thank him for that.
You better hope this is true or you might or you just might find yourself a stammering blob of regret come Judgement Day.

ZING!!!
1/30/2010 5:51 PM
Quote: Originally posted by MikeT23 on 1/29/2010shobob, I stopped reading where he said "nobody cares". I assume he doesn't consider himself to be a nobody. And I'm sure he realizes if you make a 9 point post that undoubtedly took more than a couple of minutes you can't really say "I don't care!"sarmos, nothing went over my head. You were rattling on about how no one cares except you spent an assload of time thinking and writing about it sometime between 3 and 6 AM.

Dude, I never said I don't care, I never said HBD players don't care, I'm saying people who don't play HBD don't care. Seemed pretty clear in that sentence that's what I meant, and is how most people would have understood that. Sorry for your confusion.
1/30/2010 7:59 PM
Don't be sorry. Just be brief.
1/30/2010 8:21 PM
◂ Prev 123

Search Criteria

Terms of Use Customer Support Privacy Statement

© 1999-2026 WhatIfSports.com, Inc. All rights reserved. WhatIfSports is a trademark of WhatIfSports.com, Inc. SimLeague, SimMatchup and iSimNow are trademarks or registered trademarks of Electronic Arts, Inc. Used under license. The names of actual companies and products mentioned herein may be the trademarks of their respective owners.