Wow! I do not think I have time to read the novel you posted above man.

If you guys read the rest of the conversation you'll see that wiz is known for changing to facts, and got mad that I called him out for talking a bunch of trash and not backing it up with any success. To which he replied "Ahh poor jfinn...always the brides maid, never the bride. So sorry you couldn't win your PIT final like I did."

I didn't report you wiz. I was actually wanted to hear you explain how winning the PIT compares to winning a championship or losing in the championship game.

The PI is worthless.

Re: FSS 'taking away surprise players' - what are you talking about? If you were unable to determine during recruiting in the old system almost exactly where you could get a guy to by his senior season, then you didn't know what you were doing.

Quote: Originally posted by wiz3421 on 2/27/2010I was merely referencing those players who improved beyond expectations. As it stands now, the system tells you where they will stand. It has taken a huge element right out of the game.

There were no players that 'improved beyond expectations" in the old potential model. If you felt that there were it means you did not understand it.

wiz - in the old system, a player developed however you wanted him to develop by placing minutes in that category. as z said there were no surprises, you got out of a player what you put into him minute wise

I don't see how you could ever compare, realisticly, two players who played on differant squads. Engines change, distros change, team makeup changes. Even saying you had simular RPI's means nothing because they played against differant teams with differant personel. That's even saying they were the same player, which is difficult to find (an exact duplicate of a previous player).

You are confusing two very different things here, player production and player development.

I, for one, used to hate the new potential model and loved being able to "mold" my players how I wanted them. But, as they have adjusted the hard caps somewhat, I now really enjoy the current potential system and think it is much more realistic then it used to be.

Of course, there are still minor flaws, but its a sim engine, everything cant be perfect.

Quote: Originally Posted By wiz3421 on 2/27/2010I was merely referencing those players who improved beyond expectations. As it stands now, the system tells you where they will stand. It has taken a huge element right out of the game.

the new system ADDS a huge element - you need to recruit guys taking into account their potential rather than having unrestricted ability to change them

agree with chewchad's post