Does it provide too much information, esp. when it comes to how much money a school has put into a player? I think it really should only divulge what school a player is considering, or if it is a battle, then what school the player might be leaning towards.

If a player is considering only one school then it doesn't seem necessary to provide info like, "seems solid" or "is open to other offers" since that really takes away from the strategy and gamesmanship of the game. It would be like playing poker and someone saying, "he has crap" or "he has a full house." I mean, it seems pretty logical, if a player has not signed then by definition they are open to "other offers" but that is just me.

It seems to me that in real life if you were paying someone to do scouting for your program they better know how serious a player is about other schools.

Quote: Originally posted by dahsdebater on 4/09/2010It seems to me that in real life if you were paying someone to do scouting for your program they better know how serious a player is about other schools.

I agree, but this isn't real life and we don't recruit under the same assumptions as real life schools. I've always enjoyed the game theory involved with recruiting. You don't have perfect information and the success of your choice depends on the choices of others. Now, if I no longer have to wonder about how much money a school has put into a player, then that drastically changes everything. And on top of that, not only do I not have to wonder about one individual schools efforts, but I don't have to wonder about any of the schools efforts that are recruiting players that I have FSS information on.

IMO, this takes away from some the strategy involved in recruiting.

I don't think it takes away from the strategy involved in recruiting. It has just changed the strategy involved. Do you put more money into a player early to "scare off" other teams? Do you look for "poaching" opportunities late in the recruiting cycle? Personally I've seen a lot more of the latter since FSS came into being (both by me and against me!). IMO, by giving you more information, it is giving you more options of how to approach recruiting.

the updated twice per day "FSS Word on the Street" is helpful but also misleading w/ the current recruiting logic. for example, "FSS Word on the Street" still lists recruits as considering me, very tight with me, etc... even after withdrawing the scholarship (or no recruiting effort in the last) 5+ cycles ago. hence, coaches can still think more $ needs to be spent.

i assume it doesn't give away too much info. it is just yet another HD tool that can be used in partially aiding decision making.

In D1, "very solid" can be swayed very easily by big schools.. And the word on the street is only every 4 cycles. In addition, take a look at rl recruiting. For 2011 (not this years class) UNC, Texas, Louisville and others already have good classes VERBALLY committed to them. Think of the word on the street as what you see on rivals or other recruiting sites. SOmeone may be very solid with northeastsouthwest state but when Duke/UNC comes calling, that will change fast.

I like word on the street as is. Some information, but not complete info, is perfect.

Like you would know if the guy was Duke's #1 target or if Duke called him and said that he might possibly be interest.

Does it increase the advantage of the very top schools by scaring off potential suitors for recruits said to be tight with the top program?

Just so you know RDS is mad because he got into 3 big battles and only spent 1k on his other targets. The last sim i saw this and came in and stole one of these guys for 10k and he couldn't even battle back because he had over spent elsewhere.

FSS will say you are solid or something as long as you spend 6kish... Its not hard to hide if you want to. He was just stupid and now is mad.

Quote: Originally Posted By dahsdebater on 4/09/2010It seems to me that in real life if you were paying someone to do scouting for your program they better know how serious a player is about other schools

Really not how it is at all. All they can know is what they are told by the players and their family. Their info won't even be close to accurate.

ANd a [person can punish someone who relies on that information by, for example, holding on to a chunk of change, spending only as needed, then dropping a moneybomb on the player if someone tries to compete.

unclevic, maybe it does, but it does require them to spread $5000 on each of their recruits instead of just 1000 for the same protection as existed before FSS.

Quote: Originally Posted By tannermcc on 4/11/2010Just so you know RDS is mad because he got into 3 big battles and only spent 1k on his other targets. The last sim i saw this and came in and stole one of these guys for 10k and he couldn't even battle back because he had over spent elsewhere.

FSS will say you are solid or something as long as you spend 6kish... Its not hard to hide if you want to. He was just stupid and now is mad

Outside of the personal info about RDS, I agree with this. It only takes 5-6k to make that thing read "very solid", so i think game theory still applies. When I look and see someone is "very solid", you never quite know how far into "very solid" they are, and are taking the chance of being part of the battle