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so lets say one promises 10 minutes and meets that promise for the first semester - but then the kid doesnt get the grades to play the 2nd semester - is he okay because his average mins stay over 10, despite missing 12 games or whatever?

I have hardly ever had academic issues because I overinvest in study hall by a little - if a kid does miss the 2.0, how bad is the rep hit?
5/7/2010 11:09 AM
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I believe he should be OK mets.
5/7/2010 11:11 AM
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fwiw mets, I had a guy that I promised a start and 20 mins too....he got a 1.9 and has sat the last 10 games or so and he hasn't said a peep about anything. He'll be back in 2 games and I haven't noticed any kind of drop off or decline in his ratings, WE, or otherwise.

I can't tell about the REP hit fwiw.
5/7/2010 12:12 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 5/07/2010
fwiw mets, I had a guy that I promised a start and 20 mins too....he got a 1.9 and has sat the last 10 games or so and he hasn't said a peep about anything. He'll be back in 2 games and I haven't noticed any kind of drop off or decline in his ratings, WE, or otherwise.

I can't tell about the REP hit fwiw.

So, I guess that colonels has another alias. I don't see anyone on your team who has missed 10 games.
5/7/2010 12:23 PM
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I believe it's treated just like an injury were he can't play and those 12 games he misses due to being dumb are just a wash
5/7/2010 11:12 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By hbmerlin on 5/07/2010
Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 5/07/2010

fwiw mets, I had a guy that I promised a start and 20 mins too....he got a 1.9 and has sat the last 10 games or so and he hasn't said a peep about anything. He'll be back in 2 games and I haven't noticed any kind of drop off or decline in his ratings, WE, or otherwise.

I can't tell about the REP hit fwiw.

So, I guess that colonels has another alias. I don't see anyone on your team who has missed 10 games
Correct you are...I created another username to take advantage of FREEHD in attempt to buy FSS for my other team, alas I couldn't do it since you can't get FSS with a free season.
5/7/2010 11:20 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 5/07/2010
Quote: Originally Posted By hbmerlin on 5/07/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 5/07/2010

fwiw mets, I had a guy that I promised a start and 20 mins too....he got a 1.9 and has sat the last 10 games or so and he hasn't said a peep about anything. He'll be back in 2 games and I haven't noticed any kind of drop off or decline in his ratings, WE, or otherwise.

I can't tell about the REP hit fwiw.

So, I guess that colonels has another alias. I don't see anyone on your team who has missed 10 games.
Correct you are...I created another username to take advantage of FREEHD in attempt to buy FSS for my other team, alas I couldn't do it since you can't get FSS with a free season
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5/8/2010 12:35 AM
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Quote: Originally posted by metsmax on 5/07/2010so lets say one promises 10 minutes and meets that promise for the first semester - but then the kid doesnt get the grades to play the 2nd semester - is he okay because his average mins stay over 10, despite missing 12 games or whatever?I have hardly ever had academic issues because I overinvest in study hall by a little - if a kid does miss the 2.0, how bad is the rep hit?

you are fine on the promises in that scenario. the rep his is negligible, i think 2 guys lost to grades and you are still at an a+ (assuming you started at an a+). maybe even 3.
5/8/2010 12:43 AM
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5/8/2010 12:44 AM
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I wish I professionally made rankings, but hopefully soon that will be the case...we'll see.

What I was attempting to do was very low on the "cheating" totem pole...its obvious that many before me had done it since FREEHD season can't buy FSS and a fair amount of people from what I gather still do this "legally" since they've purchased teams with their alias/aliai. Again, using FSS to view potentials and view the "word on the street" isn't that big of a deal, and I'm not just saying this because I tried to do it...it makes you better informed, but does it really help you win games? Not directly, and even the indirect impact is arguable.

With all that said, I entered a rather tough conference with my free team, ended up recruiting and filling my 5 spots, attaining a #41 recruit ranking, and though I wasn't actively gameplanning for most of the season, I was paying attention and rooting for this/my team. We're still in contention for a RS CC and a PI bid, however both are rather outside shots at the moment. A winning record is in the bag, so it actually turned into a good experience, though having 3 teams is weighing on me a bit, which is probably funny to those of you that have 10+ teams.

Well that's that...I'll be happy when my HD career returns to just *** U, but that won't be for a little while yet. Take care.
5/8/2010 10:42 AM
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Dalter, why the PDB?
5/8/2010 12:50 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By coach_billyg on 5/08/2010




openly admitting to trying to cheat is not really a great idea...

besides, you seem like a guy who at least mildly respects the strategic elements of this game. i would hope anyone who professionally makes rankings would. that said... could you really enjoy this game, even a little, if you did cheat? I didn't really answer this question earlier, so I will now. In "push button" games, if I find a loophole adverently or inadvertently, I try not to use it. I'm very familiar with Ken Griffey Jr. Baseball and there are loopholes in that game that I once exploited that I no longer try to exploit, like bunt singles, baiting CPU runners into outfield assists, and taking advantage of other poor AI decisions. It isn't fun when its too easy to win and I consider doing things like these now as cheating for myself...but not necessarily cheating for everyone, because the game allows you to do it. There are other games, Madden 05, NHL 95...just a myriad of "push buttons" where you can "cheat" but if I find something that makes the game too easy, I won't/will try not to use/do it.

I exploited a loophole in CRD 3-4 years ago, and eventually told the programmer (Norbert) about it and he said that what I said I was doing, WASN'T HAPPENING and WASN'T AN ISSUE...both of which I found hilarious. You can make the argument that having 2 teams in the same world under 2 names to exploit FSS isn't cheating at all. As stated earlier, many do it, and let's face it, the advantage you get out of it is basically negligible...its not like you're hacking others accounts and damning their gameplans/rosters, or paying uneble $500 for a perfect season. Had my plan worked, it wouldn't have detracted AT ALL from my game experience because its effects are negligible, and basically has nothing to do with how the games are played/simmed. Regardless, I will not BUY a team under an alias of mine to get FSS help for my main school...its simply not worth it.

5/8/2010 1:03 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 5/08/2010
Again, using FSS to view potentials and view the "word on the street" isn't that big of a deal, and I'm not just saying this because I tried to do it...it makes you better informed, but does it really help you win games? Not directly, and even the indirect impact is arguable.

It is a HUGE deal. You trying to justify it is just ridiculous.

It saves you from spending money on scouting states, so that you can then use that money to battle for recruits.
5/8/2010 3:54 PM
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Is it a huge deal when everyone is doing it though? Is it cheating in baseball when both the hitter and the pitcher are both using performance enhancers? If I didn't scout, and zhawks didn't scout because we both used FSS on a different team and ended up battling, are either of us gaining an advantage against each other?





WIS knows everyone does it. People have pointed them out, and they get a warning at best. Unlike most games WIS profits how long you hang around, so bans are not an option in most cases. Most games its a 1 time fee, so if they stay or not the profit doesn't change, other then if they have paid ads then it increases/decreases based on the community. Anyway, Seble has mentioned making FSS free which is a good idea. Cuts back on the 'cheating' without losing profits. You can't ban, and you'd be dumb to tell coaches they can't have x amount of teams because that would be throwing away profit.
5/8/2010 4:16 PM
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