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randallball
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A sinker is typically thrown with one finger (usually the middle finger) on a seam and the other finger (usually the pointer) off the seam. The difference in the pressure is what creates the sink.

The 2-seamer is thrown with both fingers on the seems, and the equal pressure creates the arm-side run.

At least that's how I was taught.

6/4/2010 2:12 PM
randallball
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That said, his pitches are less than stellar, and the pitch type is purely cosmetic at this point as has been pointed out.
6/4/2010 2:20 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By strikeout26 on 6/04/2010
Quote: Originally posted by oriolemagic on 6/04/2010 No he is not. A sinker is thrown with a more downward motion then a 2-seam fastball.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-seam_fastball

"similar to the sinker" its not the same pitch.
when did wikipedia become a reliable source for anything
FTFY
6/4/2010 2:21 PM
iain
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To be fair, 6+ K/9 is actually pretty decent in HBD.
6/4/2010 2:23 PM
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Some pitchers throw a 2-seam fastball as a sinker. Other pitchers throw a 2-seam fastball that is not a sinker. The sinker is a distinct pitch that is created based on how it is thrown. In other words, a sinker is a 2-seam fastball but a 2-seam fastball is not always a sinker. They are not the same pitch, sorry.
6/4/2010 2:23 PM
oriolemagic
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That is like saying a changeup and a curveball are the same pitch, its just not true
6/4/2010 2:25 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By strikeout26 on 6/04/2010
Quote: Originally posted by oriolemagic on 6/04/2010 No he is not. A sinker is thrown with a more downward motion then a 2-seam fastball.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-seam_fastball

"similar to the sinker" its not the same pitch.
when did wikipedia become a reliable source to learn anyhting
6/5/2010 9:51 AM
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