If you were scoring, how many Earned Runs do you count in the 7th.

http://www.whatifsports.com/HBD/Pages/Popups/Boxscore.aspx?gid=28560091&pbp=0

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OK, From this 1 run from the homer is earned:

"When pitchers are changed in the middle of an inning, and one or more errors have already occurred, it is possible to have a run charged as earned against a specific pitcher, but unearned to the team. The simplest example is when the defensive team records two outs and makes an error on a play that would have been the third out. A new pitcher comes into the game, and the next batter hits a home run The runner who reached on the error comes around to score, and his run is unearned to both the prior pitcher and the team. However, the run scored by the batter is counted as earned against the relief pitcher, but unearned to the team (since there should have already been three outs). Had the team not switched pitchers, neither run would be counted as an earned run because that pitcher should have already been out of that inning."

However, Guerrero scoring after the error should be unearned. To me, that leaves 3 earned. What am I missing (It prolly shouldn't but not being able to figure it out is bothering me)?

I see 3 earned against the starter for that inning, and 1 for the reliever, making 4 total earned runs. There was also 1 un-earned run, so a total of 5 runs (4 earned) were scored.



If the batter reaching base via error occured with 2 outs, the runs afterwards would all be un-earned

Jim Joyce.

there should have been 3 team ER and 4 pitcher ER

the first 2 runs are earned ... the 3rd is unearned ... the 4th and 5th from the HR should have been unearned for the team, but the HR run by the batter should be earned for the pitcher (the RP who doesn't get the free ride for no ER because the inning should have been over before he enters the game)

whether they will admit it or not, WiS doesn't bother to differentiate between team ER and individual pitcher ER the way the MLB rules work

I'm not trying to belabor the point, but I guess I just don't understand a rule I thought I knew.

Briefly, I thought it was this:

Nathan Scores - earned - 1 earned
Guerrero Scores - unearned - 1 earned, 1 unearned
Cruz Scores - earned - 2 earned, 1 unearned
Lemke Flies Out - Should have been 3rd out, so Starter is given 2 earned, 1 unearned
Benitez Homers - 1 earned to relief pitcher, 1 unearned to Starter, 2 unearned to team

Final: 3 earned, 2 unearned (2 Earned To Team), 2 to SP and 1 to RP.

So, are you saying the runner scoring on the homer is charged as an earned run to the SP (and team) even though 3 outs should have already been recorded and the inning over?

Thx

I counted the outs wrong in my summary ... the first 3 runs are all earned because the inning wouldn't have been over until the Lemke out

from there, the rest of the runs are unearned for the team

but a pitching change means a "reset" of the unearned/earned distinction for the pitcher, because it wouldn't be fair to let him off the hook for any earned runs simply because of when he entered the game

the HR earned run is charged to the RP

but my answer was right that it 3 ER to the team, and 4 ER to individual pitchers

The scoring is terrible. I have sent in numerous tickets pointing out their scoring mistakes but they always say it would "require a reproduction of the inning" which just isn't doable right now.

Does it really matter that much? Your pretend guy gave up more pretend earned runs than he should have. Some guys take this far too seriously.