Well depending on whether you're facing righties or ies should affect your lineup. Mine would go like this:



vR

Tanaka

Everett

Singleton

O'Brien

Wallace

Walker

Andujar

Woo



vL

Everett

Wallace

Tanaka

Walker

Karnuth

O'Brien

Andujar

Woo



I would trade Simmons personally, he could net you a good pitcher or maybe a better hitting middle infielder.

(1) Simmons is barely better against ies than Singleton and against righties, it's a no-brainer.

(2) In general, I believe the main thing with lineup is to get your best hitters at the top of the lineup, and it doesn't matter too much after that, but generally my philosophy is as follows.. #1 should be a hitter more slanted toward OBP with a lower ISO as he will come up with nobody on and no outs way more than anybody else, obviously. Number 2 should have strong OBP and, if I have speed, I will put it here to cut down on the double plays. Number 3 should generally be the worst of your top-5 and be a lower-OBP, higher power guy as he is often up with 2 outs and nobody on. Number 4 should be another higher-power guy, and, all things being equal, your best hitter as they will be up with men on base more than anybody else. I generally have #5 be a better hitter than #3 but not always. After that... just best hitters in order.

So for your team, I would say:

(1) Simmons/Singleton- Simmons isn't ideal, but you really don't have any great OBP guys in your lineup. Since whoever you play at 1B will be among your 3 best bats, I would bat them leadoff to get more ABs.
(2) Andujar- His speed will help avoid double plays, and decent contact-eye combo will give him a decent OBP. I would think about swapping him with Walker against ies though.
(3) Walker- Probably our third best hitter and he slants more toward power than OBP, so he's a good fit for #3.
(4) Tanaka- Your best hitter and best power hitter. I would bat him cleanup.
(5) O'Brien
(6) Wallace- O'Brien's a bit better against righties, Wallace is a bit better against ies, I don't think it makes a huge difference where you slot them.
(7) Everett- I'm not a huge fan of high-split, low-contact/power guys.
(8) Pitcher- Most lineup optimization stuff suggest there is a slight advantage to batting your pitcher 8th
(9) Woo- Clearly your worst non-pitcher

Quote: Originally posted by jtrinsey on 6/09/2010(1) Simmons is barely better against ies than Singleton and against righties, it's a no-brainer.

(2) In general, I believe the main thing with lineup is to get your best hitters at the top of the lineup, and it doesn't matter too much after that, but generally my philosophy is as follows.. #1 should be a hitter more slanted toward OBP with a lower ISO as he will come up with nobody on and no outs way more than anybody else, obviously. Number 2 should have strong OBP and, if I have speed, I will put it here to cut down on the double plays. Number 3 should generally be the worst of your top-5 and be a lower-OBP, higher power guy as he is often up with 2 outs and nobody on. Number 4 should be another higher-power guy, and, all things being equal, your best hitter as they will be up with men on base more than anybody else. I generally have #5 be a better hitter than #3 but not always. After that... just best hitters in order.

So for your team, I would say:

(1) Simmons/Singleton- Simmons isn't ideal, but you really don't have any great OBP guys in your lineup. Since whoever you play at 1B will be among your 3 best bats, I would bat them leadoff to get more ABs.
(2) Andujar- His speed will help avoid double plays, and decent contact-eye combo will give him a decent OBP. I would think about swapping him with Walker against ies though.
(3) Walker- Probably our third best hitter and he slants more toward power than OBP, so he's a good fit for #3.
(4) Tanaka- Your best hitter and best power hitter. I would bat him cleanup.
(5) O'Brien
(6) Wallace- O'Brien's a bit better against righties, Wallace is a bit better against ies, I don't think it makes a huge difference where you slot them.
(7) Everett- I'm not a huge fan of high-split, low-contact/power guys.
(8) Pitcher- Most lineup optimization stuff suggest there is a slight advantage to batting your pitcher 8th
(9) Woo- Clearly your worst non-pitcher

+1

i pretty much agree with all the principles here but differ a bit on how they are applied

for the most part i feel Everett and Andujar aren't good enough to put in either of the first 2 slots, neither are one of your 5 best hitters versus ies or righties and shouldn't be batting that high

vs righties

(1) Singleton
(2) Tanaka
(3) O'Brien
(4) Walker
(5) Wallace
(6) Everett
(7) Andujar
(8) Pitcher
(9) Woo

vs ies

(1) Simmons
(2) Tanaka
(3) Wallace
(4) Walker
(5) O'Brien
(6) Everett
(7) Andujar
(8) Pitcher
(9) Woo

I think Andujar is better than Wallace against righties, but Wallace is definitely better against ies. For some reason though, I hate having a different lineup against ies than against righties. I can't help but think of how the press would rip me in the papers and the players would struggle to get in a groove...

Out of curiosity, why do you guys think Simmons would be better vs. ies than Karnuth? They both have below average contact and good power, but Karnuth has an elite split rating while Simmons' is merely good. I'd say at the very worst they're a wash, but I'd project Karnuth to finish with a higher SLG vs. ies than Simmons would year in and year out, plus Karnuth has blazing speed.

I think Simmons is in the unusual position of being the best all-around 1B on the team but not being better in either lineup than his 1B competition (since Singleton is better vs. righties and Karnuth is better or equal vs. ies). Given the fact that depth at 1B is unimportant since anyone can play the position, and Simmons would be a very valuable piece to a team with differen personnel, don't you think the best course of action would be to deal Simmons and bring back a piece that's more vital to the team needs? That's the way I'm looking at the situation and it strikes me as a better use of resources.

Karnuth has 30 contact and 49 eye, I think that even with the high split we will struggle to OBP .330. Simmons has 18 better contact, 9 better power and 24 better eye. I think that more than makes up for the 16-point difference in splits.

Everett

Andujar

Tanaka

Singleton

Wallace

Obrien

Walker

Woo



I think Karnuth is a guy you should replace with another MIF guy. He has a good vL number...but the rest, including eye and contact limit him.