SP stamina ratings Topic

willsauve
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IS there a chart showing how many pitches/Innings you can expect from a SP with any given stamina rating? Example how many IP/G should I expect from a 70 Stamina SP?

6/18/2010 3:49 PM
csherwood
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Use the recommended pitch counts on the edit players settings page for a guideline. Durability factors into it was well (I would push a 70 STA guy for more pitches if he has a 30 DUR than I would if he had a 15). If you are looking to see how many innings a guy pitches, it obviously will also depend on how good his stuff is and how good his control is.
6/18/2010 3:59 PM
kneeneighbor
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Also when you push the recs button make sure you have the proper amount of starters in your rotation that you plan to use for the season. If you only have 4 in there when you press the button it will assume a 4 man rotation in the recs, same for 5 or 6.
6/18/2010 4:19 PM
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If the durability is bad(less than like 22) I would go for 85-95. Otherwise you can go close to 100 probably. I've found that ultimately pitch count is all guess and check work. For example if a pitcher keeps getting his start skipped than obviously  you need to turn down his pitch count. On the other side of the spectrum if he's always ready to go in 3 days, you can probably afford to work him a bit harder.
6/18/2010 4:48 PM
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Start high and lower it of you need to. That's my advice.
6/18/2010 5:08 PM
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I like to generally stick with the recs with my starters, but for my relievers I like to use the stamina rating itself as a guide. So if a guy has a stamina rating of 33, maybe I'll make his target pitch count 25 or 30 and his max pitch count 35. I find it helps keep my bullpen fresh, and increases their effectiveness since they don't pitch too long into games.
6/18/2010 5:34 PM
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For SPs, I have used this formula. For ones with DU of 30 or greater, I add the DU and ST and make that the max, and subtract 5 for the target. For SPs with DU of 25-29, I subtract 10. For lower DU, I subtract 15. This assumes a five-man rotation.

So if you have a starter with 32 DU and 85 ST, I would set the guy at 110/115.

A starter with 25 DU and 85 ST, I would set at 100/110

A starter with 22 DU and 85 ST, I would set at 90/105.

I adjust occassionally, if I see someone is bouncing back slower or faster than expected, and if there is an upcoming off-day.
6/18/2010 11:54 PM
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Posted by sanderbear on 6/18/2010 11:54:00 PM (view original):
For SPs, I have used this formula. For ones with DU of 30 or greater, I add the DU and ST and make that the max, and subtract 5 for the target. For SPs with DU of 25-29, I subtract 10. For lower DU, I subtract 15. This assumes a five-man rotation.

So if you have a starter with 32 DU and 85 ST, I would set the guy at 110/115.

A starter with 25 DU and 85 ST, I would set at 100/110

A starter with 22 DU and 85 ST, I would set at 90/105.

I adjust occassionally, if I see someone is bouncing back slower or faster than expected, and if there is an upcoming off-day.
i really like this sanderbear, i'm gonna give your system a shot
6/21/2010 1:16 AM
schuyler101
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sanderbear - where do you set your pull ratings?
6/21/2010 1:22 AM
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The durability/stamina combo is highly nonlinear, so it's tough to find a simple equation that works.  I find that the recommended pitch counts are fairly good, although they tend to err on the conservative side (meaning my pitchers are often hitting 100 the day before they need to).
6/21/2010 5:47 PM
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The rule I go by is if the DU is 25 or higher I take the stam and times it by 1.25 and if it is lower I times it by 1.12.  Those would be my mid range pitch counts  Say a guy has at least a 25 DU and stam of 85 then his mid range pc would be 106 so I would have his pc set to 100/115.  Lower than 25 it would b4 90/100.  If he is lower than 20 then the ratio is 1 to 1 for his stamina.
6/22/2010 5:01 PM
schuyler101
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Posted by rbjb on 6/22/2010 5:01:00 PM (view original):
The rule I go by is if the DU is 25 or higher I take the stam and times it by 1.25 and if it is lower I times it by 1.12.  Those would be my mid range pitch counts  Say a guy has at least a 25 DU and stam of 85 then his mid range pc would be 106 so I would have his pc set to 100/115.  Lower than 25 it would b4 90/100.  If he is lower than 20 then the ratio is 1 to 1 for his stamina.
sounds like another interesting system, do you find your pitchers recovering appropriately? i.e not too fast or too slow but so they recover just in time to take their start in a 5 man rotation?
6/22/2010 5:36 PM
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