Posted by oldave on 7/19/2010 3:54:00 PM (view original):
"......how can anyone else win consistently ? no wonder oldr and similar have so many titles. not only are they "great HD coaches" but they usually get upper tier recruits w/o battling anyone....."
Jais, have you started happy hour a little early or something? we usually agree on most stuff, but this stuff is just crazytalk.
I would agree that EE's go a long way toward keeping the uber-dynasties in check, but when you start saying that OR is not battling anyone... well, I'm just not seeing that
i'd say OR has seen more than his share of battles. He and I have had several nasty battles, and sully and others in Big East have battled him too. and, of course there is BC. I would guess he battles them nearly every year. When OR, doesnt battle, its his choosing because he often takes recruits that I would suggest are beneath him..... and then he proceeds to win NC's with these kids he finds on the scrap heap. dont get me wrong, he does get a few blue-chippers, but i have not seen this business of "not battling anyone"
Is there an advantage to an A+ prestige? yes. Does that advantage even begin to explain OR's success in tark? not even close. first of all there are probably 15-20 other coaches with great prestige and other advantages. and in a 20 year span those coaches usually win one or maybe two titles. OR has won 9.
And, whilst I am on a roll, lets discuss this business of "oldr and similar". there is no "similar" At least not in Tark. DocGil and maybe a couple of others have done some impressive stuff, but what OR has done in Tark boggles the mind.
early happy hr? jeez, i wish. my 12 month old boy keeps me from drinking until after he and mrs jais are well asleep. even by then, i'm usually too tired to drink more than 1-2 cans of michelob ultra w/ lime. ha.
i know OR had his share of battles. heck, i even had a few with him and only won ONE (and that was when he was on vacation or something). i also know that 90% of all Tark D1 HDers avoid battles with him. how do i know this?
i pretty much 'stalk' his recruiting list every other recruiting cycle (yes, every other cycle) to see if it's safe to target my lower class guys.. dave, i have watched him sign 4-5 star recruits without any competition many, many, & many times since we both joined the big east.
it's not his fault that people don't target his recruits the vast majority of the time. this is just one of the reasons he has more d1 tark championships than you and me combined multiplied by 5 or so. btw, he gets away signing uncontested recruits far more than yourself.
now i never said uncontested recruiting is the lone reason he wins. he simply has this game figured out like he coded it himself. it's amazing.
7/19/2010 9:55 PM (edited)