Case study: fav. school and dist. pref. Topic


Meet Justin Dearmond.  He's the best player in the state of Oklahoma. 

Growing up in small-town Indiana, he spent his formative years watching Bob Knight... and he always dreamed he'd wear the cream and crimson someday.  But when he was ten, his family moved to Cherokee, Oklahoma, a town of 1630 people with (get this) two black people.  Total.

He hates Oklahoma - and racist remarks naturally follow, as he's the only black guy on the team and opposing fans are quick to seize the opportunity.  He dreams of getting AWAY from Oklahoma and returning to the Midwest, especially if he can be a Hoosier.

Of course, being a black kid playing basketball with white kids never hurts, and when you're 6'6" and NBA-caliber talent, it's no surprise that you can put up 41.4 PPG in a senior year like Justin did.  But there's no doubt in his mind: the moment he graduates, he's getting out of Oklahoma and talking to the coach at Indiana - after all, Indiana was one-and-done in the NCAAs last year, so he'd be able to step in and contribute right away.





So when it's almost time to ink a letter of commitment, Justin is considering...





...Oklahoma and Oklahoma State?

In the HD world, it's likely that the coach of Indiana never even found OUT that this player wanted to go to Indiana (unless he's scouting OK,) and even if he did, the recruiting battle was always going to be between Oklahoma, OK State, and maybe Kansas or Texas.  Indiana was never, ever going to have a chance.




Conclusions:

1) You being the favorite school should be visible on all players, not just the one's you've scouted.  If a player from Minneapolis is a lifelong Dookie, Coach K would know - and if he didn't, the player would call him.

2) Distance advantage should be somehow tied to recruiting prices or made stronger.  I don't really see many 500+ -mile-away teams beating UCLA for a recruit from Compton, if UCLA really wants him.
8/29/2010 5:23 PM
You forgot to mention that he got his girlfriend in OK pregnant, and decided it was best for all involved to stay in-state. Those Hoosier dreams have a way of getting derailed when real life creeps in.
8/29/2010 8:22 PM
Partially true, at least according to the scouting report:
"I'm sure you want to know about more than what he can do on the court. Well, he's definitely the team player - off the court. He's probably had 15 girlfriends and that was just last month. I think at least one of them is pregnant. Lock your daughter up!"

" BTW, he's got some crazy stalker type girlfriend so I'm pretty sure he wants to play far away from here if possible."
8/29/2010 9:02 PM
i always find it funny when a player from wisconsin grew up rooting for manhattan college or something like that
8/29/2010 9:12 PM
it would be cool if having success 5-10 years before the recruits pop up had a correlation with recruits' favorite schools
8/29/2010 9:13 PM
It would be even cooler if success 5 years ago had ANY impact on ANYTHING in this game.
8/29/2010 10:29 PM
Posted by Lizak on 8/29/2010 10:29:00 PM (view original):
It would be even cooler if success 5 years ago had ANY impact on ANYTHING in this game.
'Cause George Mason basketball is still riding the high from their tournament run...
8/29/2010 11:02 PM
well i mean 5-10 HD seasons
8/30/2010 12:25 AM
I have suggested in the suggestions forum that they do 2 (or more) types of recruits. 

1.  Type 1 - Like all the recruits now, they basically want to play close to home.  Distance greatly affects the cost of recruiting efforts.  This means they are easy to sign locally.  They should also have a favorite local school.

2.  Type 2 - A recruit who does not care where he plays.  This type of recruit should have a fixed price for recruiting from every school (maybe base it on a distance of 200 miles like the SIMs get).  This type of recruit should have a favorite school who is random and not local.

With these two types of recruits, not every good player is locked into playing for the home team.
8/30/2010 8:29 AM
Posted by hughesjr on 8/30/2010 8:30:00 AM (view original):
I have suggested in the suggestions forum that they do 2 (or more) types of recruits. 

1.  Type 1 - Like all the recruits now, they basically want to play close to home.  Distance greatly affects the cost of recruiting efforts.  This means they are easy to sign locally.  They should also have a favorite local school.

2.  Type 2 - A recruit who does not care where he plays.  This type of recruit should have a fixed price for recruiting from every school (maybe base it on a distance of 200 miles like the SIMs get).  This type of recruit should have a favorite school who is random and not local.

With these two types of recruits, not every good player is locked into playing for the home team.
if this goes in, make it something that is a searchable factor from recruit searching or it is pointless...
8/30/2010 8:49 AM
Posted by dacj501 on 8/30/2010 8:49:00 AM (view original):
Posted by hughesjr on 8/30/2010 8:30:00 AM (view original):
I have suggested in the suggestions forum that they do 2 (or more) types of recruits. 

1.  Type 1 - Like all the recruits now, they basically want to play close to home.  Distance greatly affects the cost of recruiting efforts.  This means they are easy to sign locally.  They should also have a favorite local school.

2.  Type 2 - A recruit who does not care where he plays.  This type of recruit should have a fixed price for recruiting from every school (maybe base it on a distance of 200 miles like the SIMs get).  This type of recruit should have a favorite school who is random and not local.

With these two types of recruits, not every good player is locked into playing for the home team.
if this goes in, make it something that is a searchable factor from recruit searching or it is pointless...
Right, you need to be able to tell who is not a local recruit ... they could still keep potential and FSS the same, except I think that "Favorite School" and "Type of Recruit" should both be available outside of FSS info.

They already have recruits who prefer local and who "Don't care where they play" ... I guess I am only requesting they change how they calculate cost for those recruits and make the local, distance and favorite school visible outside FSS.
8/30/2010 8:58 AM
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