Why didn't you take the job last year?

I couldn't because I hadn't played a season in that world yet, thus I had to play a season with a D3 to "attempt" to get to the D2 that I want to get to.

they earned the job before you did, that's not unfair.

But in theory, they can go 0-27 at a d3 a season ago, I can go 23-7, making an NT appearance, yet they get first dibs on the D2 or D3 of their choice because they played and perhaps ghosted a season before me...that's earning the job?  that's fair?  If we played in the same season and were "competing" for that job, I would get/win it hands down in this instance, but the timing of when the season(s) were played trumps all.

To favor inactivity over activity just seems a bit backwards to me.

its to provide an opportunity to strike while the iron is hot as it were - it lets WIS get their hands on the returning customers $$ faster. They've already got yours...

Posted by dacj501 on 9/23/2010 1:45:00 PM (view original):
its to provide an opportunity to strike while the iron is hot as it were - it lets WIS get their hands on the returning customers $$ faster. They've already got yours...

I'm not asking to take away the opportunities of the inactive user, I'm asking that they give the active user the same reservation rights as the inactive user.

send a ticket...

Wait...are you sure someone can go 0-27 and automatically move up to D2?  I am very surprised if that is the case.

Posted by statsink on 9/23/2010 1:47:00 PM (view original):

Posted by dacj501 on 9/23/2010 1:45:00 PM (view original):
its to provide an opportunity to strike while the iron is hot as it were - it lets WIS get their hands on the returning customers $$ faster. They've already got yours...

I'm not asking to take away the opportunities of the inactive user, I'm asking that they give the active user the same reservation rights as the inactive user.

And how would you propose to do that?

Allow "active" users to reserve D2 and D3 teams up to a certain prestige during the regular season (just like inactives can)...maybe a C+ or C, so the big jobs are still available for job application time.  The newly vacated jobs wouldn't be available to inactive users until after the job application process has ended and that 1.5 to 2 day period before the season starts where INACs can sign up for jobs.

Posted by colonels19 on 9/23/2010 8:42:00 PM (view original):
Allow "active" users to reserve D2 and D3 teams up to a certain prestige during the regular season (just like inactives can)...maybe a C+ or C, so the big jobs are still available for job application time.  The newly vacated jobs wouldn't be available to inactive users until after the job application process has ended and that 1.5 to 2 day period before the season starts where INACs can sign up for jobs.

That makes no sense, on several different levels.

First, his request was to give active and inactive users the same opportunities. So your suggestion would not even accomplish what he said he wanted.

Second, do you actually think that it's a good idea to simply let people reserve teams while they're playing in the middle of the season? 

Third, you'd be throwing away business -- not allowing inactive users to reserve teams for the following season. That's bad for WIS and bad for us/the health of the game.

The reality is that this isn't a problem. If you're through 40 seasons in a world, any coach can go after a job based on what he's done in the first 40 seasons. If an inactive coach gets a job after the season rolls over (during Season 41), he's still doing it based on his resume compiled in that first 40 seasons. Any coach who didn't qualify or apply for that job after season 40 has no legitimate beef.

Posted by girt25 on 9/23/2010 11:08:00 PM (view original):

Posted by colonels19 on 9/23/2010 8:42:00 PM (view original):
Allow "active" users to reserve D2 and D3 teams up to a certain prestige during the regular season (just like inactives can)...maybe a C+ or C, so the big jobs are still available for job application time.  The newly vacated jobs wouldn't be available to inactive users until after the job application process has ended and that 1.5 to 2 day period before the season starts where INACs can sign up for jobs.

That makes no sense, on several different levels.

First, his request was to give active and inactive users the same opportunities. So your suggestion would not even accomplish what he said he wanted.

Second, do you actually think that it's a good idea to simply let people reserve teams while they're playing in the middle of the season? 

Third, you'd be throwing away business -- not allowing inactive users to reserve teams for the following season. That's bad for WIS and bad for us/the health of the game.

The reality is that this isn't a problem. If you're through 40 seasons in a world, any coach can go after a job based on what he's done in the first 40 seasons. If an inactive coach gets a job after the season rolls over (during Season 41), he's still doing it based on his resume compiled in that first 40 seasons. Any coach who didn't qualify or apply for that job after season 40 has no legitimate beef.

I am statsink.

1.  I don't see how what I said doesn't accomplish that.  I just think that it would be fairer if active and inactive users could get to reserve teams during the season, because active users are currently at a disadvantage.  My case is very specific to my argument.

2.  Up to a certain prestige, yes...why not?  Why do/might you think that it's a bad idea?

3.  I never said to not allow INACs to not reserve teams for the next season, what I said was, give ACs the same opportunities.

4.  But resumes don't matter between ACs and INACs.  If there's a B prestige D2 team out there during the season, and there's an INAC that went 0-27 in his only D3 season, and a 40 season D3 vet that wants to move up to said school as well...the INAC will get it EVERY SINGLE TIME under the current format because they can reserve teams in season, but you can't as an AC...it's just backwards.  At least afford both users the equal opportunity...I'm not saying make it like the job application process for ACs, I'm saying give ACs and INACs the same list of teams to reserve.

"1. I don't see how what I said doesn't accomplish that. I just think that it would be fairer if active and inactive users could get to reserve teams during the season, because active users are currently at a disadvantage. My case is very specific to my argument."

NO NO NO. Inactive users are at a disadvantage.

At the end of your current season there will be DI coaches in Big 6 conferences who leave HD. Who can apply for those jobs? Active users or inactive users?? The answer is ONLY active users.

Also, DI coaches move up the ranks into better coaching positions and leave good schools behind. Who can apply for those jobs? Active users or inactive users?? The answer is ONLY active users.

Once ALL the coaching moves are made in the world guess who gets the leftovers??? If you guessed INACTIVE USERS then you are correct.

Now try and explain how those inactive users get ANY advantage on prestigious openings?

The team I want is rather low on the prestige ladder, but I can't lock them up, yet someone who hasn't played in 29 seasons can.  I just really want equal opportunity here, and its really for the lesser teams, not the big boys.  If I don't get the team I want, I'll basically lame duck for a year somewhere and probably quit...just saying it'd be nice to lock up a dream job of sorts, or at the very least have equal opportunity to do so IN SEASON.