.310 average .300 OBP Topic

tecwrg
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Nothing to see here.  Move along.
12/14/2010 9:11 AM
mhulshult
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Gotta love the sacrifice.
12/14/2010 10:10 AM
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Sacrifice flies count as a plate appearance, reducing OBP.
12/14/2010 10:17 AM
MikeT23
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kermit knows flies.

12/14/2010 10:35 AM
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i once had a rusty duffy. got it from a prostitute in okinawa.
12/14/2010 10:43 AM
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Posted by kermit on 12/14/2010 10:17:00 AM (view original):
Sacrifice flies count as a plate appearance, reducing OBP.
What kermit is saying is that sacrifice flies hurt your OBP but don't change your BA.  A walk will raise your OBP and also won't change your BA.

So, any player who has more sacrifice flies than walks will have a higher BA than OBP.  Needless to say, this is not a good attribute. 
12/15/2010 3:26 PM
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Posted by jimmystick on 12/15/2010 3:26:00 PM (view original):
Posted by kermit on 12/14/2010 10:17:00 AM (view original):
Sacrifice flies count as a plate appearance, reducing OBP.
What kermit is saying is that sacrifice flies hurt your OBP but don't change your BA.  A walk will raise your OBP and also won't change your BA.

So, any player who has more sacrifice flies than walks will have a higher BA than OBP.  Needless to say, this is not a good attribute. 
Really? A guy who has 100 sac flies but only 50 BB isn't productive to the team?
12/15/2010 8:00 PM
tecwrg
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Posted by usfbully on 12/15/2010 8:00:00 PM (view original):
Posted by jimmystick on 12/15/2010 3:26:00 PM (view original):
Posted by kermit on 12/14/2010 10:17:00 AM (view original):
Sacrifice flies count as a plate appearance, reducing OBP.
What kermit is saying is that sacrifice flies hurt your OBP but don't change your BA.  A walk will raise your OBP and also won't change your BA.

So, any player who has more sacrifice flies than walks will have a higher BA than OBP.  Needless to say, this is not a good attribute. 
Really? A guy who has 100 sac flies but only 50 BB isn't productive to the team?
Sac flies are situational.  If there wasn't a man on third, you're talking about 100 fly ball outs.  Not very productive.
12/15/2010 8:03 PM
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Ah but if a man was on third for those 100 sac flies then you have 100 RBI on the year --seems productive to me.
12/15/2010 10:15 PM
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Bottom 9th with a runner on third with less than two outs in a tie game. What would you want your batter to do---  deep  fly to RCF or walk?

12/15/2010 10:19 PM
tecwrg
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Posted by lomac on 12/15/2010 10:20:00 PM (view original):

Bottom 9th with a runner on third with less than two outs in a tie game. What would you want your batter to do---  deep  fly to RCF or walk?

Bottom 9th with a runner on third and two outs, down by a run.  What would you want your batter to do--- deep fly to RCF or walk?

See, I can play that game too.  It's situational. 
12/15/2010 10:24 PM
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