Add more SPs to Tryout Camp Pool Topic

pb15
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Is there really a down side to keeping the Tryout Camp Pool stocked with SPs?

Preferably ones with high durability and stamina?

Many of us know how to draft and sign enough FAs to avoid major fatigue issues, even in RL where 18-22 tear olds haven't developed their Dur and Sta yet, as well as their control which leads to more walks and less innings per appearance. But there are lots of newer players who don't know what it takes in the preseason, and others not willing to spend 27k, 38k or 56k to stock their RL team.

Here is the tickets I submitted and WIS response:

12/29/2010 12:25 PM pb15
Please add some SPs to the Tryout Camp in Uecker. We have some owners whose minor league teams are suffering from major fatigue issues. Thanks.
12/29/2010 3:44 PM Customer Support
This is an automated process as the tryout camp pitchers are replenished when the amount gets low. There are plenty of pitchers for players to sign right now in the tryout camp.
12/29/2010 4:55 PM pb15
If you look closer you will see they are all releif pitchers. To fix their problems the owners need Starting Pitchers. Please help. Thanks.
12/30/2010 2:35 PM Customer Support
As stated, this is an automated process. The pitchers currently in the tryout camp need to be used and as they are signed, more will be generated. If those new pitchers become fatigued, they can be released and new players signed.
12/30/2010 3:00 PM pb15
If that is the case, and you cannot manually override the automated process, please consider this a suggestion that you develop a process to do so.

 

12/30/2010 3:20 PM (edited)
MikeT23
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While I see no harm in generating more SP for tryout camp, I do see a major fail with allowing users to request it.  WifS would spend an inordinate amount of time responding to requests like these and it would open the door for similar requests.

"We don't have enough catchers in world BillyBob.  Please override the automated process and create more in the IFA/draft class."
"We are severely lacking in quality RP.  Please override the automated process and have about 30-40 DITR on our borderline RP."

And so on.

Probably the best thing they could do is change the generated TC pitcher process.  Remove 34 Dur/25 Stm or single digits in either from being created for TC.  We aren't signing them as future BL players.  We're signing them to prevent fatige at the low levels.   Maybe make the combined minimum be 75.  25/50 or 50/25 can be useful.   15/55 isn't.   

12/30/2010 3:51 PM
pb15
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C'mon Mike, who said anything about adding IFA/Draft/DITR? The suggestion was for crappy Tryout Camp SPs to help fill Rookie League teams to prevent mass fatigue which would improve realism for evryone.

And I negelected to mention that I am commish of the world and requested the SPs at the same time I noticed 3 owners in our world were having fatigue problems with their RL pitchers. So I trade chatted them to adress the issue, looked for the availability of MiL FAs, ML FAs and Tryout Camp options, then sent my request to admin.

I agree 100% with you Mike that each owner should not be allowed to request more Tryout Camp players when it suits their fancy.

"Probably the best thing they could do is change the generated TC pitcher process.  Remove 34 Dur/25 Stm or single digits in either from being created for TC.  We aren't signing them as future BL players.  We're signing them to prevent fatige at the low levels.   Maybe make the combined minimum be 75.  25/50 or 50/25 can be useful.   15/55" isn't.  Yes, exactly!!!
12/30/2010 8:45 PM
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Dear WIS,

It is called game mechanics.  Feel free to look it up in Wikipedia.

Make a bunch of barely effectual, tryout camp starting pitchers.  Stop making excuses about why it is too difficult to make the game more enjoyable.  Stop annoying the **** out of everyone with stupid, annoying crap.  A lack of potential minor leaguers that can throw 60 or 70 pitches and struggle through a lineup of rookie league hitters is neither realistic nor enjoyable.

Even though I'm addicted to this game, why would I recommend it to anyone else if I have to explain how you have to spend a bunch of time worried about an ability to find scrubs to fill out your rookie league pitching staff?
12/30/2010 10:42 PM (edited)
MikeT23
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PB, I said allowing owners to make player-generation requests opens a door.    And that led to my comment about IFA/Draft/DITR.   If we can request changes to training camp pitcher generation when it suits our needs, you and I both know that such requests will be used for the arguments on other player generation functions.   

"We're able to have you override training camp player generation so why won't you do it with DITR?!?!?!?!?!?"

12/31/2010 8:22 AM
MikeT23
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DCB, I'm not sure why you'd spend a bunch time finding scrubs to fill out your rookie league pitching staff.    If you didn't sign your draftees(or draft pitchers), you go to training camp.    They're either there or they're not.    It's one click.

12/31/2010 8:24 AM
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Relying on TC pitchers to fill a team is a bad idea. Draft pitchers, sign them and use them. Much better than TC pitchers anyway. You get 30 spots for rook and 35 elsewhere, during FA when ml pitchers are plentiful, grab a ton and deactivate. Troubles are over.

And as far as new people that join the game, there is so much help all over the place -- it's much easier. Hell there's even a mentor program, good threads about the game and the ultimate, Ask The MikeT23 THREAD.
1/1/2011 3:32 AM (edited)
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They only cost 8k or less than 8k if you sign mid seasons, sign all the remaining RPs, release them, then let the system auto genreate the new players and then you can sign the high stam ones to your hearts content.
1/4/2011 3:54 PM
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