For anyone battling me for any future recruit, please refer to and follow religiously both jaisonline's and tdtony's advice above. ;)

1/9/2011 10:31 PM
Posted by girt25 on 1/9/2011 3:19:00 PM (view original):
Posted by jaisonline on 1/9/2011 3:09:00 PM (view original):
#62914 Status: - Closed Villanova, Tarkanian (8)
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10/25/2008 10:06 AM jaisonline
hi,

i have general recruiting questions

is $10k worth of Campus Visits equal the same as $10k worth of Home Visits when it comes to recruiting kids?

what is more important in recruiting, coach prestige or distance? how does one calculate the estimated diff to overcome one over the other during a recruiting battle (e.g prestige diff)?


10/25/2008 4:41 PM Customer Support
Hi, the answer to question is yes, they're about the same. Both prestige and distance play a role in recruiting but there are no formulas, that I know of, that can be used to tell you exactly what you need to do.
I know what billyg will say here, because he's said it in the past and he's right -- you're reading far too much into this and coming away with a degree of certitude from what is really a very open-ended response ("they're about the same", and the rest is even more wishy-washy).

That said, it's also kind of a misleading response, the kind that reeks of Level I support inexperience/incompetence. But there have literally been scores of threads since then that have addressed campus vs. home, so I'm surprised that you'd still be laboring under that illusion created by a watered-down response from a few years ago.

It's definitely not about money spent, it's about effort. And all you have to do is look at the relative costs for HV and CV at various distances to understand what kind of impact using the recruiting tools correctly can have.

(Not to mention, from a common sense and gameplay perspective, if they were simply worth the same for the same amount of money spent, it literally wouldn't matter which one you used and there wouldn't even be a reason to offer both tools.)

exactly. CS is not out there giving regular advice to the coaches who are competing at a very high level. especially before seble's time, most of the information those kind of coaches are looking for is information CS thinks we are supposed to figure out ourselves. how many times did old admin say he wanted to leave most of the details to coaches to figure out themselves? thats a lot of the fun of the game.

anyway, most of CS's responses are targeting newer coaches, they are giving advice that will serve a new coach decently. you see those kind of responses all the time (like the 0 minutes thing on maxed out categories). what ends up happening is veteran coaches (like jais) expect a response to them is at an expert level, but its a rookie level answer, and it leads to a massive amount of confusion. there are tons of examples, so i think it is very wise to take caution in how we read into CS responses - *especially* when we are not sure it is directly from seble's mouth, and NOT through a simple 1 line ticket response, because he gives both expert and novice level answers too (there can be no doubt of that, and its not a bad thing either).

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