perhaps his team's accomplishments were much better?

His team was much better and his guy's FG% was much better.

True we both made the NT and yes he's in the Sweet 16 now, but the award is an (individual player award), not a team award. Also my guy played first string against better opponents vs his guy who played second string vs weaker opponents and I still had better stats.

I completely disagree.  He put up almost identical numbers with better percentages in significantly fewer minutes.  His rebounding and scoring rates were dramatically higher and his block rate was astronomically higher.  6+ rebounds per game is expected from a starting center, it's gravy from a backup.

plus shooting % is a huge factor in these things I'm told...

Posted by courtmagic on 1/15/2011 10:55:00 AM (view original):
...and here's another travesty of justice. My guy, the WVIAC Freshman of the year (Vernon Dalton) doesn't make the National D11 Freshman of the Year. Stats for both: Freshman of the Year: Walter Parker (5.4 ppg , 6.4 rpg, 1.4 bpg) C - Holy Family University vs Vernon Dalton (6.3 ppg , 6.6 rpg, 1.1 bpg) C - Shepherd College.  My guy, Dalton, is also a true Freshman where as Parker is a RS Freshman.  Thoughts???

They also played head to head this season. Here are the stats for both in that game.

  

	MIN	FGM-A	FGM3-A	FTM-A	OFF	REB	AST	TO	STL	BLK	PF	PTS

 

Walter Parker, c

16

1-2

0-0

0-0

4

8

0

1

0

0

1

2

Vernon Dalton, c

29

3-7

0-0

1-2

2

10

0

1

0

1

2

7

http://www.whatifsports.com/hd/GameResults/BoxScore.aspx?gid=6457894 

Not to split hairs, but your guy had .9 blocks, not 1.1.

So the other guy scored 0.9 less per game, rebounded the same, had more blocks and shot a significantly higher percentage, all in fewer minutes -- while playing for a more successful team. And you call that a "travesty of justice"?

Come on, court, that's pretty insane. Honestly, I never understood why people cared anyway, but on the injustice scale, I don't think this one even registers.

(And it may be an "individual award", but like pretty much all of those awards in team sports, how well the team did plays a factor. It's why even MVP's, etc. almost always come from playoff teams, why the top teams in the conference have an advantage when it comes to all-conference teams, etc. etc. etc.)

in the early years, stats alone was the determinant.  High scoring players dominated the all-conference teams.  

Then they changed it to give more credit to winning teams but it was  over-corrected.  I once had 6 players on the All-Conference teams and 2 more as HM.

I still think a successful team is a factor in these matters, but not as much as before.

Miscarriage of justice?