Posted by dahsdebater on 2/1/2011 6:27:00 PM (view original):
Posted by ethan66 on 2/1/2011 5:39:00 PM (view original):
Here's the opposite extreme of this discussion. I'm adding D3 Bethany (Naismith) in a couple of weeks. Looking over the returning roster, I find this guy:
David King, Bethany
Decent rebounding and LP for a D3 freshman, but he has 3 ATH and 3 SPD. I wonder if he can even get up the floor before the shot clock expires (also note that Bethany plays Press/FB). Right now I plan on cutting him for no other reason than his ATH/SPD. Surely there's other players around there with equivalent LP, DEF, etc., ratings and better ATH!
That guy is awful in any system, particularly FB/Press. I have to say that I don't think you know what you're talking about on Carroll. Averaging 12+ PPG over a 4-year career is actually quite high... I think he's the fourth leading scorer in school history (32 seasons) in addition to being the leading rebounder and up there in shot blocking. He would have scored more if he hadn't played the same 4 seasons as the 3rd and 5th leading scorers in school history, 2 guards who shot over 42 and 45 percent from beyond the arc.
Re: Carroll - that's not the first time I've been told that :)
Let me retrace and clarify, here: I have a team full of guys with low ATH/SPD/DEF. I have experience with how easy they are to beat (we won 6 games in 2 seasons), even though I have a couple who actually have high PER. So when I read a number of experienced coaches on this board telling me that ATH/SPD are important, I listen.
It relates to real world evaluation as well - a slow stand-still shooter may be able to score some, but he will never be as good as one that has the athletic ability to beat his man down the court or dunk over him. I apply that same reasoning to HD.