Anyone know of a website where I could find examples in MLB of a specific situation followed by next at bat?

In my case, I'm looking for real life cases where: runners on 1st and 3rd, infield in, 1 out, next better grounds to 1B. I've been told the runner on third would never try to score in that scenario. That seems unlikely to me, but if I could find a few examples to confirm or refute, I'd appreciate it.

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I would think the only time he would break for home is if the 1B tries to turn the DP and throws to the SS.  

What if the second baseman is left-handed?

Well I guess that's why I'm not a big league coach (among many other reasons). Don't know if it matters, but in this case I hadn't mentioned, tie game bottom of the 9th. I figure there's more to gain than to lose by the runner on third going on anything on the ground. If the throw comes home the defense has to field cleanly, snap throw, clean catch and apply the tag on a runner who should've had a big lead and a good jump. If he's safe, game over, if not, 1st and 2nd 2 out. That is not much different than if he stays at 3rd, the 1B makes a clean play at 1B and now 2nd and 3rd 2outs.

Once I figure out retrosheet (thanks for that hypno!) I'll be able to see for myself.

Posted by dwoolery on 1/30/2011 11:49:00 AM (view original):
Well I guess that's why I'm not a big league coach (among many other reasons). Don't know if it matters, but in this case I hadn't mentioned, tie game bottom of the 9th. I figure there's more to gain than to lose by the runner on third going on anything on the ground. If the throw comes home the defense has to field cleanly, snap throw, clean catch and apply the tag on a runner who should've had a big lead and a good jump. If he's safe, game over, if not, 1st and 2nd 2 out. That is not much different than if he stays at 3rd, the 1B makes a clean play at 1B and now 2nd and 3rd 2outs.

Once I figure out retrosheet (thanks for that hypno!) I'll be able to see for myself.

This works good in theory. However, they cant tell you how the ball was hit. I played baseball for several years, and had an almost exact situation happen. Runners on the corners, 1 out, but i think it was the 7th or 8th. Ball gets hit right down the line, Firstbasemen scoops it at the bag, and steps on bag ( out number 2), and immediately throws home. runner on 3rd had broke for home on the hit, however, the firstbaseman made a accurate throw, and the runner on 3rd was out. inning over..

Now, the runner on 3rd, with less than 2 outs, will not take a big lead. If the batter lines out to the 3rd baseman, and your runner had a big lead, 3rd baseman just steps on 3rd, and you're out of the inning ( happens a lot in Real life, not so much in HBD.) the unwritten rule of baserunning, is basically, when on 3rd, you never take a big lead, and never stand in fair lines of the infield. You can argue that you should take one in the event of a passed ball or wild pitch, but you're going to score regardless of where you're standing. Hope this helps

Posted by dwoolery on 1/30/2011 9:32:00 AM (view original):
Anyone know of a website where I could find examples in MLB of a specific situation followed by next at bat?

In my case, I'm looking for real life cases where: runners on 1st and 3rd, infield in, 1 out, next better grounds to 1B. I've been told the runner on third would never try to score in that scenario. That seems unlikely to me, but if I could find a few examples to confirm or refute, I'd appreciate it.

the infield at this point would be corners in only unless the score was tied and it was in the bottom half of the ninth inning. even if you had a one run lead you would have 2nd and ss at dp depth...that way if the ball is hit to first you turn the double play hence the guy on third is running like hell on anything on the ground, if it is tied then all infield would be in and everthing on the ground is going to home. two outs is always more important than one run, unless you are tied and in the bottom half of the ninth or extras...the only and very only exception to this is if the ball is hit in a way where the 1st baseman has to charge the ball...

It's absolutely happened.  Check Brewers games for the past few years.  Happens once a month.

"the unwritten rule of baserunning, is basically, when on 3rd, you never take a big lead, and never stand in fair lines of the infield. "

That's not really true at all, although you're right about this particular instance.

If the third baseman is playing back, or there are two outs, you should be getting a big secondary at 3B.

www.baseball-reference.com/play-index/share.cgi

I have a subscriptioon to the play index on baseball reference.com, and I made this: it's probably as close as you'll get:

I don't think there are any particular "rules" that govern whether or not the runner tries to score on a grounder to 1B.    It all depends on lead, jump, speed of the runner, how hard the ball is hit, the positioning of the fielders and the fielder's arm. 

Posted by isack24 on 2/23/2011 9:09:00 PM (view original):
"the unwritten rule of baserunning, is basically, when on 3rd, you never take a big lead, and never stand in fair lines of the infield. "

That's not really true at all, although you're right about this particular instance.

If the third baseman is playing back, or there are two outs, you should be getting a big secondary at 3B.

Take as big as lead as you can, where you can beat the 3B back to the bag.