He's done addressing me, even though he didn't address a single thing I said.

He's also a moron, a newb, and not worth the time for any further serious responses... however, I did enjoy seeing a few other people rip him limb from limb.

dh555, Your 'thoughts' are limited at best'. 100 Mil gives great fun for reasons I've already given. Also, If you watched the Lakers/Hornets playoffs at all this year and actually saw the mis-match between an Older D Fisher & C Paul you would understand the' Meaning of the Term'. It could be applied to hundreds of mis-matches like it through out the NBA.  Here, most all similar situations are found in leagues with lower dollars. Wake up!

eleiitbowitz - The term of 'tweaking' won't apply  to cutting 40 million from a 100 million concept does it? That's a major change. It's not a choice of options anymore is it? Still, if people can  see the beauty of having a choice and appreciate the difference all is well.  Even if you're right and' its way to late to mend fences', know the message they delivered was wrong for this forum.  I don't see execs from CBS attempting budget changes at programing at NBC. Do you? Also, they would not just show up without some prior contact. I think the choice to join anything here, is as it was at the begining-in the hands of any interested parties.
 

I haven't read a thread this entertaining in quite a while. Good thing Rooks are allowed- someone may need to use them with the cap only being 100mil...

Posted by powernow on 5/26/2011 4:24:00 PM (view original):
dh555, Your 'thoughts' are limited at best'. 100 Mil gives great fun for reasons I've already given. Also, If you watched the Lakers/Hornets playoffs at all this year and actually saw the mis-match between an Older D Fisher & C Paul you would understand the' Meaning of the Term'. It could be applied to hundreds of mis-matches like it through out the NBA.  Here, most all similar situations are found in leagues with lower dollars. Wake up!

eleiitbowitz - The term of 'tweaking' won't apply  to cutting 40 million from a 100 million concept does it? That's a major change. It's not a choice of options anymore is it? Still, if people can  see the beauty of having a choice and appreciate the difference all is well.  Even if you're right and' its way to late to mend fences', know the message they delivered was wrong for this forum.  I don't see execs from CBS attempting budget changes at programing at NBC. Do you? Also, they would not just show up without some prior contact. I think the choice to join anything here, is as it was at the begining-in the hands of any interested parties.
 

wow just wow, is this guy for real?

Nah.  This is a guy that doesn't want people to join his league.

He won't address me because there's nothing he can say.  lol

Its shameful how bob and the "power"bottom died.

Yes Sly rooks are allowed in this league and it is a good thing....I wonder if they are going to be set to 10-10-10 A

I wonder how a 10-10-10-A rookie would perform.

just for the record I wouldnt use Derek Fisher on any team at any cap (maybe even not a Laker themed team) just to be clear

in the event one of my squads got into foul trouble of the kind you mention what you would probably see is someone like Manu Ginobili getting the extra minutes at PG

also for the record what limitless funds and sky high cap actually means is that the owners who know what they're doing are likely to draft teams that look very similar

to wit

68% efg 17% as Wilt

one of 3 or 4 PFs (Barkley, Moses etc)

Rodman

Lebron or Mike

Kidd 09-10

(that's a 50m team so if clones were allowed I could do that twice over with a 100m cap, no worries of ever seeing _erek Fisher take the floor)

and that's it, over and over again - you wake up, your squad got killed you look at the box score and it's the same team over and over again doing it and you wonder why and how that works? it's because certain players are clearly the best at each position at delivering certain sim friendly traits and those who know, know

that's why 'pretentious' (love it) draft leagues and other themes exist, because they make you figure out how to get there without just using the obvious! choices - by taking away options they actually expand choice - try that on for size

Power and bob thanks for instigating the most hilarious thread ever. You two are far more arrogant than I am and much bigger A$$?*!@$ as well. The disrespect you have showed ash is unbelievable. I have never even joined an open league to begin with as I started out in the theme leagues taking on guys like ash, scudmissle, monkee, and uvasooner etc. from the get go. No owner that takes this SIM as a seriously fun and challenging experience will join your bogus and lame A$$ league. Your 100 million theme is insane. Your staunch defense of the validity of the 100 million theme is laughable.

Please tear apart my post and ridicule me mercilessly. I enjoy the pain (in my side from laughing uncontrollably).

If you two ever grow any Ball$ join a real league like the Master Blaster Draft League or the NICH 52 Million Draft League.

Posted by felonius on 5/26/2011 11:21:00 PM (view original):
just for the record I wouldnt use Derek Fisher on any team at any cap (maybe even not a Laker themed team) just to be clear

in the event one of my squads got into foul trouble of the kind you mention what you would probably see is someone like Manu Ginobili getting the extra minutes at PG

also for the record what limitless funds and sky high cap actually means is that the owners who know what they're doing are likely to draft teams that look very similar

to wit

68% efg 17% as Wilt

one of 3 or 4 PFs (Barkley, Moses etc)

Rodman

Lebron or Mike

Kidd 09-10

(that's a 50m team so if clones were allowed I could do that twice over with a 100m cap, no worries of ever seeing _erek Fisher take the floor)

and that's it, over and over again - you wake up, your squad got killed you look at the box score and it's the same team over and over again doing it and you wonder why and how that works? it's because certain players are clearly the best at each position at delivering certain sim friendly traits and those who know, know

that's why 'pretentious' (love it) draft leagues and other themes exist, because they make you figure out how to get there without just using the obvious! choices - by taking away options they actually expand choice - try that on for size

Yeah.  Anything over $50M and I immediately think, 67 Wilt, Rodman rotation for the forwards,2-King back court.  If clones aren't available, Moses or Howard at the 4, Worm at the 3, Kidd at the 1 and either King or Air at the 2 (King is superior, sadly, but Air does have better efg% and tov%).

The higher the cap, the less the originality.  Because owners like us will resist the temptation to draft favorites and instead draft the best team possible.  Hoosier's $57M league should be a good example... in the finals, he & I faced off with the exact same starting 5... 67 Stilt, 92 Worm, 09 Murphy (you know, when he was a god), 90 Air & 09 King.  The third best record had the same line-up except a different Lebron ('10) & used Ben Wallace's 03 season instead of Murphy.

First, I mean no disrespect to anyone. Second,the original intent of this post was to attract any interested parties for a 100 million league &  not to create merrits of a 100 vs 55 cap debate. The intrusion to change my league structure was the catalyst for all this.The league was not created to threaten the existance of 55 mil but to offer the choice. Why the big deal? It's about the experience one has when participating in a league. Why the campaign to kill 100 Mil? It's a great choice!

Third, the points you all make regarding 55 are interesting but I would point out that duplication is rampant through out all leagues. We'll see MJ, Chamberlain, Howard, Rodman, etc in some form everywhere.However,with a smaller dollar figure You are more likely  to endure more mis-matches and win or lose accordingly. To fill a draft slot you will have to use cheaper talent in a 42- 55 mil.( M Olberding vs Don Ford for example are matchups that can & do happen.)Granting extra time to preferred starters like Manu won't always prevent the above. By the way, My D Fisher example was to illustrate real life mis -matches. I could easily say instead take an older A Jamison for the Cavs vs P Pierce in last years playoffs. The people for selection here don't matter The point is the same. No harm is intended.  Give me Howard Vs D Robinson at their peaks instead. It's just more fun!
Last, I'll visit this site sometime after the holiday...hope all is well and the time is good for all.

1)  Bullshit.  You meant disrespect towards myself and Malone.  Don't deny it.  Your denial of rationale has already been such an overload that Egypt has flood warnings out.  "We don't need your juvenile behaviors"

2a)  Any theme league that gets posted here will be subject to people making comments, often times constructive, sometimes not so constructive.  Get used to it or get the hell out.  Some great themes exist today because someone had an idea and was willing to listen to more experienced owners to change some details.

2b)  There's no campaign to kill the $100M.  It's a joke and doesn't exist.  But if you and 23 other people want to play it, I'll say what I said in the very beginning of this thread:  TO EACH HIS OWN.  Besides, it wasn't 55 we were advocating, it was 60 or less.  I wasn't even advocating anything... I was responding to Malone.  You know... how a thread works?

3)  There's duplication and there's exact copies.  You make a high cap league and you'll see the same teams, not just same players, but the same teams.  And where will those teams be?  The division leaders.  You can talk about cp3, Frazier or the Admiral, but none of those guys will appear on those top teams that will dominate you.


You clearly don't understand some of the basic concepts of this sim, much less the advanced ones.  You bring up absurd examples (cp3 in foul trouble, so you have to bring in fish.  First of all, cp3 is not going to get into foul trouble very often.  We'll be generous and say 2x a season.  If a low-foul guy getting into foul trouble twice in 82 games ruins your fun, you need to do something else.  You also need to learn how to properly manage foul trouble in the sim.  I bet you have no idea how to do that.  Then you assume that someone would have a terrible player like Fish as a back-up.  I have better players than fish as my back-up in $42M leagues.  Then you assume that matchups mean something!  They mean so little it's ridiculous).

It's okay to be a noob.  It's okay to not understand these things.  It's okay to want to play in a high cap for misguided reasons.  All of that is fine.  But lashing out at more experienced players who are trying to help you... that's not okay.  Telling people who have been here for years how to behave here is not okay.  You're wrong about a lot of ideas, but you're most wrong for that.  You have much to learn, but I don't think anybody you've offended around here will care to teach you.  Go back to Egypt, Cleopatra.

 

Thank God this thread has died!!!!!! It was starting to get silly.