I admit your claim that Sarah Palin is a liberal made me do a double-take. I'm not here to argue that point. It's just that this isn't the first time you've labeled someone widely considered a conservative as a liberal, although I can't remember who the other person was. So if you'll indulge me, I'd like to see some examples of current people you consider conservative. Any of the candidates for president? Who is your ideal conservative, and would you want that person as president? If not, then who? I would much appreciate a response, so thank you in advance.

Not counting me of course.

Herman Cain, Gary Johnson, Ron Paul, people who are not from the GWB liberal camp.  The Repugs hasn't had a true conservative run for President since Reagan.  Even he started to go left a bit in the last couple of years of his presidency.

Basically the balance has been gone in the US since 1992.  It has been Liberals and Labor parties.  I would like to see a good Tory come in for once. 

This is what the Tea Party is about.  It is to remove the GWB Repugs out of office (which they did pretty well in 2010) and get some real economically conservatives in there. 

In fact, I hope someone runs against the liberal Scott Brown.  I want him gone ASAP.

Sarah Palin and GWB may not be want you want out of a conservative, but you done lost your mind if you think they are liberal.

Posted by raucous on 6/15/2011 10:11:00 PM (view original):
Herman Cain, Gary Johnson, Ron Paul, people who are not from the GWB liberal camp.  The Repugs hasn't had a true conservative run for President since Reagan.  Even he started to go left a bit in the last couple of years of his presidency.

Basically the balance has been gone in the US since 1992.  It has been Liberals and Labor parties.  I would like to see a good Tory come in for once. 

This is what the Tea Party is about.  It is to remove the GWB Repugs out of office (which they did pretty well in 2010) and get some real economically conservatives in there. 

In fact, I hope someone runs against the liberal Scott Brown.  I want him gone ASAP.

Thank you for the response. A few follow up questions, and feel free to tell me to eff off if you like. It seems you are more concerned with people being economically conservative than socially conservative. Polls show Mitt Romney as the current front-runner for the Republican nomination. How economically conservative is he, on a scale of one to ten, with ten being most economically conservative? And where would the country go in that regard if he became president? Finally, Reagan has often been pointed to as an example of a high-spending Republican. Are you referring to him as economically conservative, and if so, in what context?

Mitt Romney is a liberal.  He brought us in MA Romneycare.  The price of healthcare in MA is increasing at a much higher percentage than the national average.  His plan is bankrupting the state. 

I am very socially liberal.  I fell you should be able to do what you want as long as you are not breaking anyone else's Constitutional rights.  You should be able to buy pot at your local CVS and smoke your brain right out if you want to.  It is fine as long as you aren't screwing anyone else up. 

Reagan slowed down spending quite a bit early, but giving the tax cut enabled the country to turn around the economy, which in turn increased tax intake for the country.  However, we continued to borrow quite a bit for back in those days to make it happen.  In 1986, Reagan actually increased taxes.

The problem with GWB is that he was a borrow and spend person.  That is even worse than a tax and spend Democrat.  What we have now is even worse than that.  We have a tax, borrow, and spend person.  This is just not sustainable.

I feel that Keynesian Economics has screwed the capalist system, with the government getting too involved.  I am a Milt Friedman type of guy. 

I would give Reagan a 5.  Unfortunately, right now we are at -6.  Ron Paul is a 10.  GWB is a 1.

BTW I liked Palin in 2008, but then the McCain camp got to her and GWB the crap out of her.  Then she goes on to support him against the Tea Party candidate in 2010.  She is lost to me now. 

You give a good analysis of politics. I appreciate your points. I do not accept all of them, but I appreciate the train of thought you use.

Lets talk reality though.

If you cant win with a 10 and you can win with a 1 and they are running against a -6 what should you do?

Multiply that by 435 House seats, 100 Senators, and 1 President that picks 15 cabinet posts, appoints up to 9 supreme court justices and hundreds of other positions.

In a recession, is a stimulus package ever a good idea?

After the Tax Reform Act of 1986, rates for upper income Americans plummeted, while those for lower income Americans were raised slightly. To oversimplify, is this taking from the poor to give to the rich?

The federal debt as a percentage of GDP had been on a steady downward trend since 1945, from 117.5% to 32.5% after Jimmy Carter left office. But when Reagan left office, the number was 53.1%. David Stockman, who directed the Office of Management and Budget for Reagan, wrote that tax cuts such as those in the Reagan era do more damage to the deficit than then they help the economy. What are your thoughts?

The Paul Ryan budget. What are your thoughts? On a scale of one to ten, how much do you favor it, with ten being the highest?

According to you, Ron Paul is a ten at being economically conservative. How do you picture a Ron Paul presidency if he won the office in 2012, given the economic conditions, both current and predicted?

Posted by raucous on 6/16/2011 12:45:00 AM (view original):
BTW I liked Palin in 2008, but then the McCain camp got to her and GWB the crap out of her.  Then she goes on to support him against the Tea Party candidate in 2010.  She is lost to me now. 

Honestly, I wouldn't say the McCain camp "got to her"... as Alaska's governor she was very used to a system where her state got fat government checks on a regular basis. She was smart enough to realize which way the Republican wind was blowing and make a show of being in sympathy with what became the Tea Party, but the whole "bridge to nowhere" nonsense showed how shallow that commitment actually was.

Posted by antonsirius on 6/16/2011 7:45:00 AM (view original):

Posted by raucous on 6/16/2011 12:45:00 AM (view original):
BTW I liked Palin in 2008, but then the McCain camp got to her and GWB the crap out of her.  Then she goes on to support him against the Tea Party candidate in 2010.  She is lost to me now. 

Honestly, I wouldn't say the McCain camp "got to her"... as Alaska's governor she was very used to a system where her state got fat government checks on a regular basis. She was smart enough to realize which way the Republican wind was blowing and make a show of being in sympathy with what became the Tea Party, but the whole "bridge to nowhere" nonsense showed how shallow that commitment actually was.

This is another example of how the left traps you.

They take the money, and tell you if you dont do what we say you dont get it back.

Medicare, SS, Stimulus...etc.

Posted by swamphawk22 on 6/16/2011 12:59:00 AM (view original):
You give a good analysis of politics. I appreciate your points. I do not accept all of them, but I appreciate the train of thought you use.

Lets talk reality though.

If you cant win with a 10 and you can win with a 1 and they are running against a -6 what should you do?

Multiply that by 435 House seats, 100 Senators, and 1 President that picks 15 cabinet posts, appoints up to 9 supreme court justices and hundreds of other positions.

I would really like you to respond to this.

bump for response

Posted by 1899_spiders on 6/16/2011 5:16:00 AM (view original):
In a recession, is a stimulus package ever a good idea?

After the Tax Reform Act of 1986, rates for upper income Americans plummeted, while those for lower income Americans were raised slightly. To oversimplify, is this taking from the poor to give to the rich?

The federal debt as a percentage of GDP had been on a steady downward trend since 1945, from 117.5% to 32.5% after Jimmy Carter left office. But when Reagan left office, the number was 53.1%. David Stockman, who directed the Office of Management and Budget for Reagan, wrote that tax cuts such as those in the Reagan era do more damage to the deficit than then they help the economy. What are your thoughts?

The Paul Ryan budget. What are your thoughts? On a scale of one to ten, how much do you favor it, with ten being the highest?

According to you, Ron Paul is a ten at being economically conservative. How do you picture a Ron Paul presidency if he won the office in 2012, given the economic conditions, both current and predicted?

Yes, that's how FDR got the US out of the Depression in the 30's.

FDR kept us in the depression.

WWII got us out.

I am not sure we can count on Germany invading France this time.