All Years Progressive all filled up Topic

this progressive started with the most awesome draft ever

24 teams, 25 roster positions, 1st year players only, the entire history of baseball

12,000 players to choose from

1885 to 2010, David Aardsma to Dutch Zwilling



mainly everyone went for long term studliness, but also there was the lust to win now



now here we are 4 seasons later and we just lost two owners. it's a hard economy i don't need to tell you



so do history a favor and adopt one of these orphans
10/9/2011 5:52 PM (edited)
franchise 17 roster:

ID player yr1 yrN role shares_ID? shares_name? O F
314 Appier, Kevin 1990 2003 P     YOU 17
318 Appling, Luke 1931 1950 H     YOU 17
1274 Bonds, Barry 1986 2007 H     YOU 17
1671 Brown, Kevin 1989 2005 P   shares name YOU 17
1846 Burkett, Jesse 1890 1905 H     YOU 17
2120 Carey, Max 1911 1928 H     YOU 17
2140 Carlton, Steve 1965 1987 P     YOU 17
3447 Delahanty, Ed 1888 1903 H     YOU 17
4353 Fernandez, Sid 1984 1996 P     YOU 17
7439 Kent, Jeff 1992 2008 H     YOU 17
8381 Lombardi, Ernie 1931 1947 H     YOU 17
8642 Maddux, Greg 1986 2008 P     YOU 17
9285 McGriff, Fred 1987 2004 H     YOU 17
10340 Nen, Robb 1993 2002 P     YOU 17
10848 Palmer, Jim 1965 1983 P     YOU 17
10904 Parrish, Lance 1978 1995 H     YOU 17
12418 Salmon, Tim 1992 2006 H     YOU 17
12423 Sambito, Joe 1976 1987 P     YOU 17
14330 Traynor, Pie 1920 1935 H     YOU 17
15215 Williams, Bernie 1991 2006 H   shares name YOU 17
15378 Wiltse, Hooks 1904 1915 P     YOU 17
15749 Zito, Barry 2000 2009 P     YOU 17
15832 Phillips, Brandon 2003 2009 H     YOU 17
17170 Hernandez, Felix 2005 2009 P     YOU 17
17622 Votto, Joey 2007 2009 H     YOU 17

franchise 17 roster in season 4:

Name Season Franchise Pos Salary YOU 17
Kevin Appier 1993 Kansas City Royals SP $8,498,123 YOU 17
Kevin Brown 1992 Texas Rangers SP $6,523,502 YOU 17
Steve Carlton 1968 St. Louis Cardinals SP $5,726,075 YOU 17
Sid Fernandez 1987 New York Mets SP $3,828,347 YOU 17
Felix Hernandez 2008 Seattle Mariners SP $4,370,091 YOU 17
Greg Maddux 1989 Chicago Cubs SP $5,788,485 YOU 17
Jim Palmer 1969 Baltimore Orioles SP $5,871,086 YOU 17
Hooks Wiltse 1907 New York Giants SP $4,708,311 YOU 17
Barry Zito 2003 Oakland Athletics SP $6,583,842 YOU 17
Robb Nen 1996 Florida Marlins RP $3,152,036 YOU 17
Joe Sambito 1979 Houston Astros RP $2,325,150 YOU 17
Ernie Lombardi 1934 Cincinnati Reds C $3,440,538 YOU 17
Lance Parrish 1981 Detroit Tigers C $4,138,211 YOU 17
Fred McGriff 1990 Toronto Blue Jays 1B $6,114,810 YOU 17
Joey Votto 2008 Cincinnati Reds 1B $3,899,588 YOU 17
Jeff Kent 1995 New York Mets 2B $4,256,966 YOU 17
Brandon Phillips 2008 Cincinnati Reds 2B $4,748,204 YOU 17
Pie Traynor 1924 Pittsburgh Pirates 3B $5,751,057 YOU 17
Luke Appling 1934 Chicago White Sox SS $3,746,756 YOU 17
Barry Bonds 1989 Pittsburgh Pirates OF $5,609,611 YOU 17
Jesse Burkett 1893 Cleveland Spiders OF $6,645,817 YOU 17
Max Carey 1911 Pittsburgh Pirates OF $4,207,110 YOU 17
Ed Delahanty 1891 Philadelphia Phillies OF $3,522,979 YOU 17
Tim Salmon 1995 California Angels OF $8,069,840 YOU 17
Bernie Williams 1994 New York Yankees OF $6,460,714 YOU 17
Active Roster Total Salary:     $127,987,249 YOU 17


8/8/2011 6:13 PM (edited)
franchise 3 roster
ID player yr1 yrN role shares_ID? shares_name? O F
1167 Blasingame, Don 1956 1966 H     YOU 3
1782 Buffinton, Charlie 1885 1992 H&P     YOU 3
2548 Clemens, Roger 1984 2007 P     YOU 3
3561 Dibble, Rob 1988 1995 P     YOU 3
4215 Everitt, Bill 1895 1901 H     YOU 3
4746 Frisch, Frankie 1919 1936 H     YOU 3
4817 Gagne, Eric 1999 2008 P     YOU 3
5481 Griffin, Alfredo 1979 1993 H     YOU 3
6076 Heilmann, Harry 1914 1930 H     YOU 3
6105 Helton, Todd 1997 2009 H     YOU 3
6186 Herman, Babe 1926 1936 H     YOU 3
6943 Jennings, Hughie 1891 1902 H     YOU 3
7068 Johnson, Walter 1907 1927 P     YOU 3
7498 Killen, Frank 1891 1900 P     YOU 3
7735 Koufax, Sandy 1955 1966 P     YOU 3
7970 Larkin, Henry 1885 1893 H     YOU 3
8416 Lopez, Al 1930 1947 H     YOU 3
8792 Manush, Heinie 1923 1938 H     YOU 3
9468 Medwick, Joe 1932 1947 H     YOU 3
9873 Moon, Wally 1954 1965 H     YOU 3
10142 Munson, Thurman 1969 1979 H     YOU 3
12634 Schmidt, Mike 1973 1989 H     YOU 3
13204 Smith, Dave 1980 1991 P   shares name YOU 3
13869 Sutter, Bruce 1976 1988 P     YOU 3
15840 Peavy, Jake 2002 2009 P     YOU 3

franchise 3 roster in season 4:

Name Season Franchise Pos Salary
Charlie Buffinton 1888 Philadelphia Quakers SP $17,080,541
Roger Clemens 1987 Boston Red Sox SP $8,312,276
Walter Johnson 1910 Washington Senators SP $15,601,112
Frank Killen 1894 Pittsburgh Pirates SP $6,182,026
Sandy Koufax 1958 Los Angeles Dodgers SP $3,567,147
Jake Peavy 2005 San Diego Padres SP $6,875,998
Rob Dibble 1991 Cincinnati Reds RP $2,466,863
Eric Gagne 2002 Los Angeles Dodgers RP $3,521,380
Dave Smith 1983 Houston Astros RP $1,600,402
Bruce Sutter 1979 Chicago Cubs RP $4,266,173
Al Lopez 1931 Brooklyn Dodgers C $2,418,406
Thurman Munson 1972 New York Yankees C $4,766,609
Bill Everitt 1898 Chicago Orphans 1B $4,284,362
Todd Helton 2000 Colorado Rockies 1B $10,186,482
Henry Larkin 1888 Philadelphia Athletics 1B $4,226,765
Don Blasingame 1959 St. Louis Cardinals 2B $4,983,007
Frankie Frisch 1922 New York Giants 2B $5,629,995
Mike Schmidt 1976 Philadelphia Phillies 3B $6,876,206
Alfredo Griffin 1980 Toronto Blue Jays SS $3,959,865
Hughie Jennings 1894 Baltimore Orioles SS $6,347,922
Harry Heilmann 1918 Detroit Tigers OF $2,555,355
Babe Herman 1929 Brooklyn Robins OF $6,857,746
Heinie Manush 1926 Detroit Tigers OF $6,446,571
Joe Medwick 1935 St. Louis Cardinals OF $6,899,348
Wally Moon 1957 St. Louis Cardinals OF $4,327,045
Active Roster Total Salary: $150,239,602




 
9/12/2011 4:37 PM (edited)
so you could keep all the players on your roster, using next season stats, or cut any or all of them, replacing them with 1st year players from an 11,000 player list i will email you

understand though, that Cy Young and Babe Ruth ain't on that list. They already belong to someone else. Not me. I wish.



Rules:

1. you draft someone, you draft his rookie season

2. you cut someone, he is gone forever from this league

3. provided rules 1 and 2 are followed, you can draft any player from any year

4. you keep someone from last year, you play his next available year. meaning if he skipped a year, you skip on ahead. no IR/DL like most progressives have

5. you want to draft a guy you have to cut a guy. no keeper list like most progressives have

6. no collusion & no tanking. oh sure, they all say that. here's how we do it: no trades & champ drafts first

7. 24 team open-league style schedule. Alignment random so you don't get stuck behind that Cy Young Babe Ruth team every season

8. no DH, AAA, or WW. no $, PA, IP, position, or stadium restrictions. Like the mad scotch says when they're scotching his nards, Freedom!

9. i will need a real life email address to send you a white list / black list spreadsheet every season around playoff time

10. just , baby
10/9/2011 9:43 AM (edited)
We need 2 owners to step up and manage a team of baseball's all-time greats against the rest of the all-time greats.

This is a great league and if we don't find 2 more owners soon, it is in danger of contracting or folding.  So if you are interested, be interested in it for the long haul.

In a league like this, fortunes can change year by year.  There are no ridiculous dynasties built up like you see in some of the other progressives.

Both of these teams have some amazing players, with some amazing seasons coming up.

The only question you should be asking yourself now is if you want Maddux, Carlton and Bonds, or Clemens, Koufax and Walter Johnson. 
9/30/2011 9:22 PM
If you take the Bonds-Maddux led team, your team could look like this for the upcoming season.  Of course you could cut any of these guys and have them and the rest of their career disappear from the league forever and draft a new player in their place.

Position Players
    Pos Player B PA/
162
AB/
162
HR RBI SB-
CS
SO-
BB
AB/
HR
AVG OBP SLG F/R Salary
C 1935 Ernie Lombardi R 372 352 12 64 0-0 6-16 27.7 .343 .379 .539 C+/D+ $3,758,288
1B 1991 Fred McGriff L 642 528 31 106 4-1 135-105 17.0 .278 .396 .494 C/B+ $5,032,456
2B 2009 Brandon Phillips R 644 584 20 98 25-9 75-44 29.2 .276 .329 .447 B+/A $5,623,807
3B 1925 Pie Traynor R 697 626 6 106 15-9 19-52 98.5 .320 .377 .464 B/A+ $6,665,823
SS 1935 Luke Appling R 698 560 1 71 12-6 40-122 525.0 .307 .437 .389 B-/A+ $6,512,025
OF 1990 Barry Bonds L 621 519 33 114 52-13 83-93 15.7 .301 .406 .565 B/B $6,709,447
OF 1894 Jesse Burkett L 764 657 8 94 28-26 27-84 65.4 .358 .447 .509 D/C $6,137,844
OF 1912 Max Carey S 741 630 5 66 45-32 79-61 117.4 .302 .372 .394 C+/A+ $5,954,448
C 1982 Lance Parrish R 529 486 32 87 3-4 99-40 15.2 .284 .338 .529 B/B $5,357,697
1B 2009 Joey Votto L 544 469 25 84 4-1 106-70 18.8 .322 .414 .567 C/C $4,828,011
3B 1996 Jeff Kent R 477 437 12 55 6-4 78-31 36.4 .284 .330 .432 D/A+ $2,675,603
OF 1892 Ed Delahanty R 548 506 6 91 29-18 32-31 79.5 .306 .360 .495 C/A $5,258,884
OF 1996 Tim Salmon R 686 585 30 98 4-2 125-93 19.4 .286 .386 .501 C/C $4,749,300
OF 1995 Bernie Williams S 729 634 18 82 8-6 98-75 31.3 .307 .392 .487 B-/A+ $7,050,977
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Batting Totals 8692 7573 239 1216 235-131 1002-917 30.1 .304 .385 .483 C+/B+ $76,314,610
Pitching Staff
    Role Player T W-L-S IP/
162
ERA OAV WHIP K/
9
BB/
9
HR/
9
K-BB Salary
SP 1994 Kevin Appier R 7-6-0 219 3.83 .240 1.29 8.42 3.66 0.64 145-63 $6,128,504
SP/RP 1993 Kevin Brown R 15-12-0 233 3.59 .252 1.30 5.48 2.86 0.54 142-74 $5,704,119
SP/RP 1969 Steve Carlton L 17-11-0 237 2.17 .216 1.18 8.00 3.54 0.57 210-93 $7,092,315
SP/RP 1988 Sid Fernandez L 12-10-0 190 3.03 .191 1.05 9.10 3.37 0.72 189-70 $6,235,597
SP/RP 2009 Felix Hernandez R 19-5-0 239 2.49 .227 1.14 8.18 2.68 0.57 217-71 $7,477,806
SP/RP 1990 Greg Maddux R 15-15-0 237 3.46 .265 1.32 5.47 2.70 0.42 144-71 $5,595,808
SP/RP 1970 Jim Palmer R 20-10-0 305 2.71 .231 1.19 5.87 2.95 0.62 199-100 $8,270,702
SP/RP 1908 Hooks Wiltse L 23-14-2 348 2.24 .224 1.03 3.22 1.99 0.11 118-73 $9,925,877
SP/RP 2004 Barry Zito L 11-11-0 213 4.48 .263 1.39 6.89 3.42 1.18 163-81 $4,345,623
SP/RP 1997 Robb Nen R 9-3-35 74 3.89 .250 1.51 9.85 4.86 0.85 81-40 $1,498,066
SP/RP 1980 Joe Sambito L 8-4-17 90 2.19 .200 0.96 7.47 2.19 0.30 75-22 $3,270,083
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Pitching Totals 156-101-54 2,385 3.01 .234 1.20 6.59 2.97 0.56 1683-758 $65,544,500
10/1/2011 10:31 PM
Now if you took the Clemens - Big Train - Mike Schmidt - Ducky - Slug Heilmann - Sandy Koufax team, there are some changes you can make right away.  This team has a lot of talent in the future, but this season is a mixture of good years and down years.  This is how the roster stands today.

Position Players
    Pos Player B PA/
162
AB/
162
HR RBI SB-
CS
SO-
BB
AB/
HR
AVG OBP SLG F/R Salary
C 1973 Thurman Munson R 576 519 20 74 4-6 64-48 26.0 .301 .362 .487 C+/B $5,571,269
1B 2001 Todd Helton L 696 587 49 146 7-5 104-98 12.0 .336 .432 .685 A+/C $8,773,284
2B 1923 Frankie Frisch S 744 679 12 111 29-12 12-46 53.4 .348 .395 .485 B/B $7,711,668
3B 1977 Mike Schmidt R 667 544 38 101 15-8 122-104 14.3 .274 .393 .574 B/A+ $7,979,721
SS 1895 Hughie Jennings R 764 660 4 125 53-41 17-24 132.3 .386 .444 .512 B/A+ $10,628,269
OF 1927 Heinie Manush L 698 628 6 90 12-8 29-47 98.8 .298 .354 .442 C/B- $4,825,857
OF 1936 Joe Medwick R 713 670 18 138 3-3 33-34 35.3 .351 .387 .577 B+/B- $7,779,954
OF 1930 Babe Herman L 736 646 35 130 18-18 56-66 17.5 .393 .455 .678 B/D $9,054,941
C 1932 Al Lopez R 468 425 1 43 3-6 35-34 404.0 .275 .331 .356 C/C- $2,925,899
1B 1899 Bill Everitt L 640 587 1 74 30-35 49-31 536.0 .310 .351 .366 D/A+ $3,545,608
1B 1919 Harry Heilmann R 688 622 8 93 7-12 41-37 67.1 .320 .366 .477 D/C+ $4,656,724
OF 1958 Wally Moon L 358 306 7 38 2-3 30-47 41.4 .238 .342 .366 B/D- $1,664,130
1B 1889 Henry Larkin R 750 629 3 74 11-18 41-83 172.0 .318 .428 .426 D+/C $5,457,398
SS 1981 Alfredo Griffin S 633 593 0 21 8-12 38-17 388.0 .209 .243 .289 D/B+ $2,602,889
2B 1960 Don Blasingame L 614 551 2 31 14-2 53-49 261.5 .235 .302 .300 B/C- $3,078,385
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Batting Totals 9745 8646 204 1289 216-189 724-765 38.5 .313 .379 .482 C+/B- $86,255,996
Pitching Staff
    Role Player T W-L-S IP/
162
ERA OAV WHIP K/
9
BB/
9
HR/
9
K-BB Salary
SP 1889 Charlie Buffinton R 28-16-0 485 3.24 .257 1.34 3.62 2.87 0.24 153-121 $12,365,291
SP/RP 1988 Roger Clemens R 18-12-0 264 2.93 .220 1.06 9.92 2.11 0.58 291-62 $8,559,717
SP/RP 1911 Walter Johnson R 25-13-1 340 1.90 .238 1.12 5.78 1.95 0.22 207-70 $10,146,157
SP/RP 1895 Frank Killen L 5-5-0 117 5.49 .290 1.79 2.37 5.40 0.19 25-57 $2,036,444
SP/RP 1959 Sandy Koufax L 8-6-2 160 4.05 .235 1.49 10.15 5.40 1.35 173-92 $3,145,128
SP/RP 2006 Jake Peavy R 11-14-0 203 4.09 .242 1.23 9.56 2.76 1.02 215-62 $5,629,302
SP/RP 1992 Rob Dibble R 3-5-25 71 3.07 .193 1.12 14.08 3.97 0.38 110-31 $2,261,613
SP/RP 2003 Eric Gagne R 2-3-55 83 1.20 .133 0.69 14.98 2.19 0.22 137-20 $5,463,221
SP/RP 1984 Dave Smith R 5-4-5 78 2.21 .214 1.03 5.24 2.33 0.58 45-20 $2,192,111
SP/RP 1980 Bruce Sutter R 5-8-28 103 2.64 .242 1.21 6.68 2.99 0.44 76-34 $2,618,532
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Pitching Totals 110-86-116 1,904 3.06 .236 1.22 7.37 2.93 0.50 1432-569 $54,417,516
10/1/2011 10:43 PM
Seriously, no interest?
10/4/2011 7:38 PM
I would like to jump in on the Clemens team if still open..
10/9/2011 3:20 PM
franchise 3 is yours, buddy
10/9/2011 5:51 PM (edited)
Sweet! 
10/9/2011 7:26 PM
I will take the Maddux/Bonds team if still available. 
10/10/2011 1:53 AM
nice
10/10/2011 8:16 AM
Posted by N4ser on 10/10/2011 1:53:00 AM (view original):
I will take the Maddux/Bonds team if still available. 
franchise 17 is yours
10/10/2011 8:45 AM
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