Working link to D-I schools' baseline prestige? Topic

axeme
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Trying to find what used to be call " Igauna1's study of prestige by D-I school."

The old link cycles back to the page forum main page where the link cycles back to the forum main page, etc.

Anyone have a listing of baseline prestige by school?


12/13/2011 8:14 AM
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ACC 
A+ Duke
A+ North Carolina
A Maryland
A- Georgia Tech
A- Wake Forest
A- North Carolina State
A- Boston College
B+ Virginia
B Clemson
B Florida State
B Miami (Fla)
B Virginia Tech

Big East
A+ Connecticut
A+ Syracuse
A- Georgetown
A- Louisville
A- Cincinnati
B+ Villanova
B+ Pittsburgh
B West Virginia
B Providence
B Seton Hall
B St. John's
B- Rutgers
Big 10
A+ Michigan State
A+ Illinois
A- Indiana
A- Wisconsin
B+ Ohio State
B+ Purdue
B Iowa
B Michigan
B Minnesota
B Notre Dame
B- Penn State
B- Northwestern
SEC
A+ Kentucky
A- Florida
B+ Arkansas
B+ Tennessee
B LSU
B South Carolina
B Vanderbilt
B Georgia
B Alabama
B Auburn
B Mississippi
B Mississippi State
PAC 10
A+ UCLA
A+ Arizona
A- Stanford
B California
B Oregon
B Oregon State
B Washington State
B Washington
B Arizona State
B USC
B- Hawaii
B- Fresno State
BIG 12
A+ Kansas
A- Oklahoma
B Oklahoma State
B Texas
B Missouri
B Iowa State
B Texas Tech
B Texas A&M
B- Kansas State
B- Colorado
B- Nebraska
B- Baylor

A10
B = St. Joseph's
B = Temple
B = Xavier
B = Dayton
B- = UMass
B- = Charlotte
B- = Rhode Island
B- = St. Bonaventure
B- = Richmond
B- = St. Louis
B- = George Washington
B- = La Salle

WCC
B = Gonzaga
C = Pepperdine
C = Portland
C = San Francisco
C = Santa Clara
C = Loyola Marymount
C = Nevada
C = San Jose St.
D+= Grambling St.
D+= Lipscomb
D+= Texas, Pan American
D+= Boise St.

Mountain West
B = Utah
B = UNLV
B- = New Mexico
C = BYU
C = Denver
C = Texas Christian
C = Texas Southern
C = Wyoming
C = Air Force
C = N. Texas
C = San Diego St.
C = Colorado St.

CUSA
Memphis = B
The rest = C

Ivy
All teams = D

Horizon
B = Marquette
B- = DePaul
The rest = C

Missouri Valley
All teams = C

MAC
All teams = C

All other schools are D
12/13/2011 8:48 AM
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Is anybody else bothered by Illinois being an A+?
12/13/2011 12:57 PM
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Not anymore than a dozen other subjective "mistakes".
12/13/2011 1:11 PM
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Fair point.  That one just seems to stick out.
12/13/2011 1:19 PM
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How accurate is this baseline list?
2/21/2012 12:49 AM
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is it impossible to create a Butler from a low level school?
2/21/2012 1:12 AM
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Posted by carter40 on 2/21/2012 1:12:00 AM (view original):
is it impossible to create a Butler from a low level school?
Define what you mean.  If it's make the national championship, any of the "mid-major" conferences can do it... not sure about low DI conferences.
2/21/2012 1:26 AM
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Posted by carter40 on 2/21/2012 1:12:00 AM (view original):
is it impossible to create a Butler from a low level school?
Butler is down. If they slip back into the NIT depths for a couple seasons they'll have been no more than a blip. If they pull off a miracle run and get back there again, maybe you've got something.
2/21/2012 2:10 AM
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I did this list based on the lowest prestige I've seen a program slip to.
It differs a bit from the baseline list provided above. 

B-
ACC:   Duke,  North Carolina
Big 12:  Kansas
Big East:  Syracuse,  UConn
Big Ten:  Illinois,  Michigan State
Pac 10:  Arizona,  UCLA
SEC:  Kentucky

C+
ACC:   Maryland

C
ACC:  Boston College,  Georgia Tech,  NC State,  Wake Forest
Big 12:  Oklahoma
Big East:  Cincinnati,  Louisville
Big Ten:  Indiana,  Wisconsin
Pac 10:  Stanford
SEC:  Florida

C-
A-10:  Dayton,  St. Joseph's,  Temple,  Xavier
ACC:  Clemson,  Florida State,  Miami,  Virginia,  Virginia Tech
Big 12:  Iowa State,  Missouri,  Oklahoma State,  Texas,  Texas A&M,  Texas Tech
Big East:  Georgetown,  Pittsburgh,  Providence,  Seton Hall,  St. John's,  Villanova,  West Virginia
Big Ten:  Iowa,  Michigan,  Minnesota,    Notre Dame,  Ohio State,  Penn State,  Purdue
MWC:  UNLV,  Utah
Pac 10:  Arizona  State,  Cal,  Oregon,  Oregon State,  USC,  Washington,  Washington State
SEC:  Alabama,  Arkansas,  Auburn,  Georgia,  LSU,  Mississippi,  Mississippi St,  South Carolina,  Tennessee,  Vanderbilt

D+
A-10:  Charlotte,  George Washington,  La Salle,  Rhode Island,  Richmond,  St. Bonaventure,  St. Louis,  UMass
Big 12:  Baylor,  Colorado,  Kansas State,  Nebraska
Big East:  Rutgers
Big Ten:  Northwestern
CUSA:  Memphis
Horizon:  DePaul,  Marquette
MWC:  New Mexico
Pac 10:  Fresno State,  Hawaii
WCC:  Gonzaga

D
Missouri Valley:  all teams

2/21/2012 9:07 AM
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Posted by cburton23 on 12/13/2011 12:57:00 PM (view original):
Is anybody else bothered by Illinois being an A+?
Naturally
2/21/2012 10:25 AM
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I mean to create a school that is an A prestige from a low level conference.  I remember there were some guys trying to do it at the CAA a while back.  Did anything happen with that?
2/21/2012 10:53 AM
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Conference USA in Rupp is trying to bring that conference up to the level of that of a BCS conference
Seven seasons in there has been some progress as they finished with the #1 conf RPI and took home the most tourney cash last season.
Still have a ways to go to be considered the overall number one. 

  starting current
Central Flordia C+ B
East Carolina C B
Houston D- C+
Marshall D+ A
Memphis C A-
Rice C C+
Southern Miss D C+
SMU D- C
Tulane C+ C+
Tulsa D C
UAB D+ B+
Texas-El Paso D B+
2/21/2012 11:42 AM
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Posted by cburton23 on 12/13/2011 12:57:00 PM (view original):
Is anybody else bothered by Illinois being an A+?
there are so few A prestige schools, i think about half those A+s need to drop a notch. or in IL's case, a few notches (i cant really see them as an a- even). i would definitely not put AZ at the A+ level. i think syracuse is another good candidate to drop to an A. if michigan state wasnt so good lately, and WIS obviously cares about that being a factor in baseline, i'd put them at an A too, probably, but I'm fine either way. i just don't see those schools stacking up on the same field as UK/UNC/DUKE/KU. I would even consider dropping UCLA, 1 good decade 30 years ago doesn't make you an A+, IMO. I guess ben howland had them to like, 3 straight final 4s just a bit ago. whatever, i can see them either way.

i would definitely bump indiana to an A too, i mean come on... indiana = a- = BC? i don't think so!!
2/21/2012 12:42 PM
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