This didn't start as an Allen ACC thread, I swear Topic

I don't know how they missed the NT.  They had enough wins to qualify.  6 wins vs. Top 50. 
2/24/2012 1:24 PM
Third team out.  RPI was worse before the PIT, at least.
2/24/2012 1:26 PM
Posted by cornfused on 2/24/2012 12:43:00 PM (view original):
Allen ACC>Knight SoCal>Phelan ACC>Allen Gulf South>everyone else, is what it seems to be.
not sure how GLV tark is not at least 2nd on that list
2/24/2012 1:29 PM
Posted by gillispie1 on 2/24/2012 1:29:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cornfused on 2/24/2012 12:43:00 PM (view original):
Allen ACC>Knight SoCal>Phelan ACC>Allen Gulf South>everyone else, is what it seems to be.
not sure how GLV tark is not at least 2nd on that list
How about Allen NAC or don't D III s qualify?
2/24/2012 1:34 PM
The Big East and Big 12 in Wooden complete the most competitive leagues in all worlds.  No team outside those two conferences has won the championship in the last 20 seasons.  12 from the Big 12 and 8 from the Big East.  Out of the 40 teams in the championship game over the last 20 seasons, only 5 have been from outside those two conferences (3 ACC, 1 PAC 10, and 1 WCC).  They annually place 1st (Big East) and 2nd (Big 12) in conference RPI.  

The good- if you are in one of those two conferences you get a ton of money and a prestige bump.  

The bad- all other conferences struggle (The PAC 10 is making a move with 12 human coaches and the #2 conf RPI so far this season, although they will drop below the Big 12 during conference play).  

I don't know how long this streak will continue but there are only a couple of teams on an annual basis that seem capable of knocking off the great teams from those two conferences.  
2/24/2012 1:41 PM
well, that does it. i am home sick today again. so i am going to whip out the old dynasty list calculator, and get it to start scraping all the data. and while it goes, ill modify the program to let me do more, now i can just see the current and all time best 1, 5, 10, 20 year run, with a max of 1 entry per school. ill modify it so i can get some cooler reports on who has the best single seasons, whose bringing home the big trophy, etc... and then finally, ill run the current 10 and/or current 20 year dynasty to find the conferences deserving of consideration for top conference (or maybe top 5, not sure how ill do it. maybe top 5 per division?), and consolidate some stats on them. should be fun. give me like... 2 hours... :)
2/24/2012 1:41 PM
Posted by coach_billyg on 2/24/2012 1:42:00 PM (view original):
well, that does it. i am home sick today again. so i am going to whip out the old dynasty list calculator, and get it to start scraping all the data. and while it goes, ill modify the program to let me do more, now i can just see the current and all time best 1, 5, 10, 20 year run, with a max of 1 entry per school. ill modify it so i can get some cooler reports on who has the best single seasons, whose bringing home the big trophy, etc... and then finally, ill run the current 10 and/or current 20 year dynasty to find the conferences deserving of consideration for top conference (or maybe top 5, not sure how ill do it. maybe top 5 per division?), and consolidate some stats on them. should be fun. give me like... 2 hours... :)
can't wait to see it, coach! 
2/24/2012 1:43 PM
Must not be that sick...  How can you get the up-to-date input data if you're only active in 1 world now?
2/24/2012 2:14 PM
Posted by dahsdebater on 2/24/2012 2:14:00 PM (view original):
Must not be that sick...  How can you get the up-to-date input data if you're only active in 1 world now?
i wrote that dynasty ranking program like a year and a half ago, it goes out and grabs the HTML for each team in HD. you don't need to logged in to see a particular team, just need their team ID. i did have coaches, up front, sent me the team IDs for every world. so now to grab all that data, all i do is delete the old data, hit a button, and it goes out and reads, parses, and saves the team history for every team in every world (thats like 10 thousand teams maybe). it takes good couple hours to run though, i don't want to flood WIS servers, so i only read 1 team at a time. i used to leave a delay in there too, and start 3 of them, reading from the 3 urls (whatifsports, wisjournal, whatif.cincinnati which no longer exists). but i dont really see the value in that so its just doing 1 by 1 with no delay now.

i would post the dynasty rankings more often except once i get the data, i set the program mode to like one of 7 different things it can do, like calculate all time best team dynasties, which will do juts that for 5, 10, 20 year time periods, and spit the data out in a format so i can simply copy paste to the forums. but there are so many copy pastes because there is so much data, i spit out the rankings for all of HD and for every world, so im sitting there copy pasting for like a half hour. it used to take a few hours, but i enhanced the program to spit it out in the easiest format to minimize the manual labor. really, i bet there is a coach out there who would think, a half hour of work to post dynasty rankings of every team, conferences, and other miscellaneous data by world and all of HD (like world pop data and longest streaks, like most consecutive NT appearances, etc) - well a half hour for that, they would think that was a great investment of a half hor. i am just burnt out on the game (well much less so right now) and lazy. its like, i did all the work to write this, and so i don't want to do any more work on it. i just want it to post itself. i WOULD have programmed it to post itself if i saw i way to programatically post to the HD forums... but anyway, maybe i could have another coach take up the charge of keeping this stuff up to date?

lets see, its been running like 10-15 minutes, and it has scraped almost half of d1. so another 1.5 hours maybe? when its done, ill post teh basic conf dynasty info - best current and all time 1, 5, 10, 20 year runs, and the population data (which happens to be turned on to print, and i dont remember how to turn it off, so i figure ill just grab it - a coach is maintaining a population thread right now which is cool but i dont think he has all the worlds, so i wanted to give this data to him, but was lazy - well, no excuse now, it will automatically print itself when the 1.5 hours of data mining is done).
2/24/2012 2:33 PM
-CRAP-

something changed format wise on the history page. this was not written to be robust for WIS changing their format. it was written to be the easiest quickest hack possible. so i have to track that down. shouldn't be too bad but i have to throw away all the data it mined now :(


edit: its only grabbing simAI teams. strange. but thats good. it means something minor broke, most likely. because its still reading those seasons that it is reading at all 100% correctly.

2/24/2012 3:41 PM (edited)
alright, we are good. back on track, its re-running. they changed a:
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and that broke it. but its through a hundred teams and got em all, it looks like at least
2/24/2012 3:55 PM
btw, the whatif.cincinnatti.com still works, I use it daily
2/24/2012 4:32 PM
RPI at time of selection was in the 40's.  We are 49 on the projection report, that doesn't change (position doesn't change, everything else updates) when the tournament starts.
2/24/2012 8:49 PM
Posted by gillispie1 on 2/24/2012 1:29:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cornfused on 2/24/2012 12:43:00 PM (view original):
Allen ACC>Knight SoCal>Phelan ACC>Allen Gulf South>everyone else, is what it seems to be.
not sure how GLV tark is not at least 2nd on that list
I am biased, but look at the top 10 conference RPI's in D3... and then see the new ones that haven't been updated.  The So. Cal is the ACC of DIII :)
2/24/2012 9:46 PM
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