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zbrent716
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4/5 role in a D3 Motion/Zone

Player 1

45 ATh
40 Spd
75 Reb
45 Def
75 SB
60 LP
1 Per
30 BH
50 Pass

Player 2
50 Ath
50 Spd
75 Reb
40 Def
60 SB
45 LP
35 Per
30 BH
40 Pass

Thoughts?

 

12/20/2011 3:51 PM (edited)
caesari
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From just a defensive standpoint, I'm going player 2 because of his ATH. Player one is the better all around guy, though, so really you should roll with him.
12/20/2011 11:54 AM
alblack56
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Definitely #1 unless we play each other...then you should get #2

12/20/2011 1:56 PM
zbrent716
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Posted by caesari on 12/20/2011 11:54:00 AM (view original):
From just a defensive standpoint, I'm going player 2 because of his ATH. Player one is the better all around guy, though, so really you should roll with him.
This is really interesting, because I read it almost the opposite.

I took player 1 to be the better defensive guy (I value SB a lot in big guys in zone), but thought player 2 might be a more versatile (better) player overall.
12/20/2011 3:51 PM
caesari
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See, I don't look much at SB, but the difference for me is the ATH/SPD combo. Their defensive stats are very close, and I guess it comes down to personal preference.

The part I find interesting is that you see player 2 as a better all around player, so I assume you mean he's better on offense than number 1. What am I missing there?
12/20/2011 6:28 PM
zbrent716
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I think the ATH/SPD combo plus the inside/outside options for Player 2 may make him a tougher matchup for the opposing team's 4/5 to guard.
12/20/2011 7:20 PM
caesari
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Okay, that outside option would make sense, and I guess it the. Depends on the offense for me. If player 1 could always be in the low post, then I would without a doubt choose him. But if you're running motion, it would be more up in the air (although I'd still probably start #1, but give #2 plenty of minutes off the bench.
12/20/2011 8:48 PM
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#1.  I don't think there's a whole heck of a lot of difference between 1 and 35 PER, and that's the only major advantage of #2.
12/21/2011 12:19 AM
zbrent716
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Potential
  Current
Rating		 Potential     Current
Rating		 Potential
Athleticism 37 Average   Perimeter 1 Low
Speed 17 High   Ball Handling 32 Low
Rebounding 56 High   Passing 30 High
Defense 23 High   Stamina 72 Average
Shot Blocking 55 High   Durability 51 High
Low-post 40 High   FT Shooting   Average


Potential
  Current
Rating		 Potential     Current
Rating		 Potential
Athleticism 29 High   Perimeter 14 High
Speed 39 Average   Ball Handling 11 High
Rebounding 55 High   Passing 20 High
Defense 28 Average   Stamina 53 High
Shot Blocking 50 Average   Durability 12 High
Low-post 43 Low   FT Shooting   High

Anything change now?

12/22/2011 9:08 AM
usc4life
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I'd say player 1 is more of a sure thing at the 4/5 spot, while player 2 has the chance to be a very good all-around player, ideally at the three spot
12/22/2011 10:40 AM
bow2dacowz
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id take #2 just because i don't like guys that could cap out below 50 ath and because he could probably play 3 positions...but if you're strictly looking for a 4/5 guy, player #1 is probably the sure thing as usc4life says
12/22/2011 12:41 PM
tianyi7886
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I'm surprised you even know the potential of player #1. I thought you just try to recruit whoever I have been recruiting on the assumption that the player would be good...
12/22/2011 2:20 PM
zbrent716
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Posted by tianyi7886 on 12/22/2011 2:20:00 PM (view original):
I'm surprised you even know the potential of player #1. I thought you just try to recruit whoever I have been recruiting on the assumption that the player would be good...
There are only so many recruits in that state. You can't just claim all of them for yourself and then later on decide which ones you want, leaving the rest to JUCO. 
12/22/2011 3:52 PM
zbrent716
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Posted by zbrent716 on 12/22/2011 9:08:00 AM (view original):
Potential
  Current
Rating		 Potential     Current
Rating		 Potential
Athleticism 37 Average   Perimeter 1 Low
Speed 17 High   Ball Handling 32 Low
Rebounding 56 High   Passing 30 High
Defense 23 High   Stamina 72 Average
Shot Blocking 55 High   Durability 51 High
Low-post 40 High   FT Shooting   Average


Potential
  Current
Rating		 Potential     Current
Rating		 Potential
Athleticism 29 High   Perimeter 14 High
Speed 39 Average   Ball Handling 11 High
Rebounding 55 High   Passing 20 High
Defense 28 Average   Stamina 53 High
Shot Blocking 50 Average   Durability 12 High
Low-post 43 Low   FT Shooting   High

Anything change now?

So far, it is looking like Player #1 was the answer. To be fair, Player #2 was red-shirted, but I still don't expect him to end up nearly as productive as Player #1, because his High ratings (so far) weren't nearly as good.

Player Ratings
Name Yr. Pos. A SPD REB DE BLK LP PE BH P WE ST DU FT TOT
                                 
                                 
Eric Doctor (Player #1) Jr. PF 53 47 82 41 74 64 1 32 47 56 75 74 C+ 646
Willie Lowell (Player #2) So. PF 43 49 68 32 53 42 20 19 26 43 60 33 C- 488
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